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Old 02-04-2010, 08:44 AM
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Trans Builder says Alto Red Eagle is junk?

My trans builder calls me today and says these clutches are junk. He says he only uses Raybestos or Borg Warner. He also said the only reason they can fit "extra" clutches in the tranny is because they make them thinner, which allows them to heat up and warp easier. He is also saying they are re-lined, whereas the Raybestos clutches are new.

Tell me what you think. I need to make a decision today.
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Call and talk with Bill at RacerX. If he says they are re-lined then so be it. If he says they are new and are a good clutch, then so be it.

Alto Red clutches are all over the drag racing world, and they are, in general, not junk...
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I have NEVER seen or HEARD of re-lined clutch disks
for the E4. Sounds like your trans builder is questionable.
He is not building a hand shaker.

Talk to bill. He cuts no corners.

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I would have to question your builder on this. I used those clutches when I had mine rebuilt and was told they were one of the best clutches. I did a lot of research and bought my own parts when I had mine done. But call up Racer X and talk to them about them.
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My trans builder calls me today and says these clutches are junk. He says he only uses Raybestos or Borg Warner. He also said the only reason they can fit "extra" clutches in the tranny is because they make them thinner, which allows them to heat up and warp easier. He is also saying they are re-lined, whereas the Raybestos clutches are new.

Tell me what you think. I need to make a decision today.
Maverick has the ball now. My .02 taught by the best is:

A cutting torch itself is made of: METAL.... So, how can a cutting torch, burn and cut metal?

Borg Warner and Raybestos make OEM quality clutches. Both also make other automotive parts other than clutches.

Raybestos clutches are also available in higher quality grades than OEM. Most anyone can acquire them.

All Alto clutch and steel materials are higher quality grades than OEM. They also manufacture every clutch used by the U.S. Dept of Defense. Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines. Alto manufactures more clutches than anyone for anything from industrial equipment to you name it. From the largest machines used in mining and industry to construction equipment that can knock down your house with only 60 hp. Such as a 16,500lb bull dozer a single rear axle full size diesel truck can be taught to move anywhere on a 5,500lb trailer configured correctly. : )

Not everyone can acquire or represent Alto's Legendary High Performance product line. That's a fact.

The bottom line with most machines is it's easy to destroy them. Less than 30 seconds is it without it's life blood. How to make it survive the extreme is technical tour-de-force!

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Photo: John's 60 hp. turbo diesel fires up and shoots a 5 gallon bucket 10 feet in the air off the open exhaust. LOL John's aboard to go have stainless exhaust tubing bent to fit. John has Alto clutches. So does the horse up front. The horse runs em with the cure too.



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That looks just like my JD, 3 cyl non turbo 350
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I have only have heard good things about these clutches.
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That looks just like my JD, 3 cyl non turbo 350
Hey, There's no steering wheel... LOL

450 turbo diesel, pto winch on the tail, 6 way hydraulic blade, limb risers, full brush cage with roll bars, full automatic--aka hydrostatic power train. John shifts on the fly or reverses direction without stopping.

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About the same as mine , no winch, 70 or so vintage ...
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