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Old 12-23-2009, 06:26 PM
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Another engine question

sorry about all the questions guys I am still new to the BBF. Looking for a BBF to go into my 77 F-250. what would a 429 out of a LTD w 60,000 miles be worth to buy the complete motor? casting #'s C9VE-A for the heads and C9VE-B for the block. How much would you say it is worth? thanks for the help guys.
 
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Sounds like a good $500 motor. Nothing special about the heads or block.
However, be advised that the arrangement of the accessories (alternator, A/C etc) may not allow it to fit into the truck engine compartment.
The car layout tended to be low and wide, whereas the truck arrangements tend to be high and narrow.
The A/C compressor and/or the alternator may end up on the frame.
Also you will need the Ford 460 perches to mount it correctly.
Good luck on this project, you will like the 429.
 
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would I need to run any fuel additives with tis motor to prevent detonation
 
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I would guess probably not.
I base it on the head casting numbers. The C9VE indicates it is a 69 Lincoln design, not a performance high compression design - there would be an O or S instead of a V.
But I would check casting numbers against a good list to be sure.
 
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The motor is supposed to be a 11:1 CR with 360hp and 476TQ
 
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Those CRs sound pretty high for a Lincoln.
My knowledge of performance capability is very limited, but I would hesitate to think that Ford believed grandma and grandpa expected high compression engine performance in their luxury car. They wanted accessories and comfort, not horsepower - but that is my opinion.

Hopefully someone with better knowledge than I can assist you with better specs.
 
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Old 12-26-2009, 12:25 AM
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10.5 & 11 were not uncommon for luxobarge motors pre '72.
 
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:09 AM
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Ford claimed 10.5 to 1 for the advertized compression ratio on their 429 2 barrel motors and 11.0 to 1 for the 4 barrel 429 motors back then. So it will be a premium fuel only engine either way. The 460 back then was a 10.5 to 1 motor.
 
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yeah it is a 4 barrel so 11:1. sure I would have to have the heads redone so not to run lead additive. I would be ok with premium only I guess
 
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just because it has c9ve on the block doesnt mean its a 429 it could be a 460

I bought a c9ve motor not maybe a week ago along with a d0ve block and both had 460's in them

the heads are good though they are around 72-74cc's and on the stock 460 psiton would net you around 10:1 on the 429 11:1 so 93 octane would be fine just don't get it to hot or to much timing



when you want to have some fun put the timing up to around 35 at full advance and a lil 104 and it will really wake it up
 
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That old of a motor probably has the odd ball crank pilot size. If you have a auto you would need the converter too. I don't know if they make a pilot bearing for a manual trans for it though, you might want to look into this before paying the $.
 
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Mark if it has the larger crank pilot you just use the pilot bushing for an FE.
 
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Mark if it has the larger crank pilot you just use the pilot bushing for an FE.
D1TZ7600A .. Pilot Bearing / D1TZ7600A replaced B8AZ7600A & B8A7600A / 1 27/32" O.D. / 43/64" I.D.

Fits: 1958/59 332 / 1958/67 352 / 1961/76 390 / 1962/63 406 / 1963/68 427 / 1966/70 428 / 1968/71 429 / 1968/76 360.

First year for the 460 w/a manual transmission: 1983.

460: 1968/71 Lincoln/Mark III only / 1972 Lincoln/Mark IV & 1972 Thunderbird / 1973/78 Ford/Mercury/Lincoln Passenger Cars / 1973/79 F100/350 / 1975/96 Econoline / 1983/97 F250/350.

429: 1968/73 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars.
 
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Bill, that book lists dimensions in fractions instead of decimals? I can't believe that LOL.

But yes that pilot bushing will work for the early 429/460s even though ford didn't use a manual behind them.
 
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Bill, that book lists dimensions in fractions instead of decimals? I can't believe that LOL.

But yes that pilot bushing will work for the early 429/460s even though ford didn't use a manual behind them.
429 4 speed: 1968/71 Galaxie/LTD & P/C's (Police Cruisers) / 1968/71 Fairlane/Torino/Comet/Montego / 1968/71 Mustang/Cougar.

Decimal conversion chart in the front of the catalog sez: 43/64" = .672" ~ 17.066mm // 27/32" = .844" ~ 21.431mm // 1" = 1.000" ~ 25.400mm
 


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