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Old 03-28-2009, 01:45 PM
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We all know a 5.0 mustang wont run 10s with slicks & flowmasters...That takes a ton of work to run numbers like that ..Lew
 
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Thats what he has, not sure about the gears. But the SSP Mustangs are alot lighter than a Crown Vic. I have 3.55's in my F150 with 5.0 and it finally shifts into overdrive at over 100. I just checked and i correct my statement, the 351 was offered in the Crown Vic up to 91, but with 2 barrel carb. only. Just putting an automatic in drive when trying to race is the worst thing to do. You will definately lose. Start in low and working up is best to get maximum benefit from your rpms. If a stock Lightning can run high 10's low 11's, why is it so hard to believe a SSP Mustang can?
 
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No a civilian Mustang WONT. I have heard of some of the Texas DPS Mustangs in the late 80' early 90's being supercharged. I know people that have serviced them that have confirmed it. That may be what he is running.
 
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Thats what he has, not sure about the gears. But the SSP Mustangs are alot lighter than a Crown Vic. I have 3.55's in my F150 with 5.0 and it finally shifts into overdrive at over 100. I just checked and i correct my statement, the 351 was offered in the Crown Vic up to 91, but with 2 barrel carb. only. Just putting an automatic in drive when trying to race is the worst thing to do. You will definately lose. Start in low and working up is best to get maximum benefit from your rpms. If a stock Lightning can run high 10's low 11's, why is it so hard to believe a SSP Mustang can?
..What world are you in ??? A stock lightning gen 1 351 will run mid to low 15s stock...& your saying a ssp stang with this chip will run 10s..Thats BS... Even a stock supercharged gen 2 wont come close to that...A stock mustang with a supercharger wont do that or we all would be running 10s...Have you ever been to a drag strip & seen what it takes to run a 10 sec 1/4...I think your talking 1/8 mile ???
 
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Thats what he has, not sure about the gears. But the SSP Mustangs are alot lighter than a Crown Vic. I have 3.55's in my F150 with 5.0 and it finally shifts into overdrive at over 100. I just checked and i correct my statement, the 351 was offered in the Crown Vic up to 91, but with 2 barrel carb. only. Just putting an automatic in drive when trying to race is the worst thing to do. You will definately lose. Start in low and working up is best to get maximum benefit from your rpms. If a stock Lightning can run high 10's low 11's, why is it so hard to believe a SSP Mustang can?
with something like my truck where i shift at 6k yes i need to put it in 1st then shift to D then pull it back down to 1st when the tranny is in second around 4500rpms to hold the tranny in second till 6k then shift back to D for 3rd gear........it's retarded but it's the nature of an AOD

with a car that is completely stock the transmission should be set to shift at the best rpm for acceleration.....case and point the 5.0 aod tranny shifts at 4800-5000rpms wide open when everything is stock which is perfect for the cam that's in there but it's not till you lengthen your powerband that you need to shift higher

and my friend has an 02 lightning with a ported kenne bell on it, pullys, headers, exhaust, pushing 15lbs of boost, 4.56 gears with a locker, slicks, tuned by "jonny lightning" on jonny's dyno that runs mid/low 11s and hooks hard and he knows how to drive it....it's definatly not stock and i have never seen a stock lightning run high 10s

i agree with lew52, you must be talking about the 1/8th mile where as we are talking about the 1/4

and i just looked up the info on the crown vic and your right that it wasn't offered with a 351 in the year his car was, i am thinking that it must have been a swap then because i am positive it was a 351 fuel injected motor under the hood and it looked factory-ie black plastic air box ect.. the kid had absolutly no idea what his car had in it other than a 351 that he thought was twin turbo'd from the factory
 
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If the CV motor was EFI it was a 4.6, they swapped to the modulars in the early '90's long before the motor ever appeared in the trucks, the 5.8 was never offered with EFI in any car except the '95 Cobra Mustang R.
 
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it's suprising you said that because it looked like it had a truck intake manifold on it and it said 5.8....i am sure it wasn't a mod motor it even had the two radiator hose like intake hoses going to a plastic airbox, who ever did the swap did a good job i thought it was factory, and so did lewie (owns the car)
 
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I dont the truck manifolds will clear a crown vic hood. The cars used low profile intakes because of hood clearance. I have several catalogs where you can get the 351, cobra, and intercepter tags that screw to the 5.0 intakes. Your truck doesnt have PRNO21? Very surprising. I just lock out overdrive til it pegs the speedo out. Mine will hold the gear till the valves start to rattle, then i have to back off a bit before it shifts. I dont have a tach in it so i dont know what rpm's it shifts at. I know it doesnt shift out of first til around 35-45 mph.
 
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it's suprising you said that because it looked like it had a truck intake manifold on it and it said 5.8
It doesn't fit under a stock hood then, and it's definitely not factory.
 
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idk what intake it was then but it was similar to a truck intake with the twin bore throttle body and it did fit under the stock hood i would go take a picture of the car for you but i had surgury and had to take a semester off from school, but next time i go up to party i'll snap a few pics
 
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It's a 4.6 then...

 
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I talked with the man with the SSP Stang. It turns out he has two identical cars one with a DPS tune: 13/14 sec car. The other is running STS twin tailpipe turbo's, Ford racing intake, cam, heads, Flowmaster outlaw mufflers, SCT flash unit and a few suspension mods so it will hook up. He was one of the DPS mechanics, and told me that just before he retired they stuffed a 5.4 in a 04 Crown Vic as an intercept vehicle. I have seen it a couple of times, the colors on the car are reversed. Looks kinda odd. And yes i have seen what it takes to run 10's. It can be done with as little as 450 hp, if everything else is set up right. Hell my 73 Torino GT with a semi stock 351c runs 13's on 245/60/14 street tires and mufflers and it weighs in at almost 4,000 pounds.
 
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lol no it was a 5.8 not a mod motor lol i know what they look like my buddy has an 03 cobra that i've worked on before

i'll definately take some pics next time i am up there though i didn't get a good look at it and this was in the beginning of first semester but i do remember it was a 351 it said 5.8 on the intake, would not suprise me if it was a swap lewie's dad is a mechanic and has a bunch of old cars like 40s and 50s cars (lewie also went to my highschool)
 
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I think both of you guys are wrong.

It's a SBC.
 
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