Dealer Installed Fifth Wheel/Gooseneck Prep
#16
If you're really solid on buying the trailer, talk to the seller about a modest/reasonable non-refundable holding deposit. Discuss conditions, like it being contingent on no undisclosed material defects etc. That is assuming this is a situation where you WILL be buying the trailer barring any glaring defects. Its done with aircraft quite a bit.
#17
I did this same exact thing when buying a used Montana High Country 313RE last year from a couple in Wisconsin when we live in Georgia. We sent them an agreed upon $500 check that he would hold and give back to me at the time of purchase if everything was as they said it was on the trailer. If we decided that the trailer was not right for us (we knew it was though) the $500 was theirs to keep for their troubles. If there was something wrong with the trailer or it was not as advertised, we reclaimed the $500 and either renegotiated the price or walked away.
The deal went well, we traveled 1000 miles and the deal went as planned. We looked for this trailer for about a year and were willing to drive up there to get it.
Have a conversation with the seller over the phone and then send the details of the deposit over email so that you both have them in writing for future reference if required.
Also, pictures are a must here on FTE, we love to see pictures of the trailer, truck, etc...
The deal went well, we traveled 1000 miles and the deal went as planned. We looked for this trailer for about a year and were willing to drive up there to get it.
Have a conversation with the seller over the phone and then send the details of the deposit over email so that you both have them in writing for future reference if required.
Also, pictures are a must here on FTE, we love to see pictures of the trailer, truck, etc...
#18
I am about to order my 2017 f350 and saw the issues with ordering a 4x2 and the fifth wheel prep. I have decided to go the 4x4 route because then I can order the factory option for fifth wheel prep. I feel it is worth the money and I get 4x4 although I probably don't need it in normal operation.
#19
I am about to order my 2017 f350 and saw the issues with ordering a 4x2 and the fifth wheel prep. I have decided to go the 4x4 route because then I can order the factory option for fifth wheel prep. I feel it is worth the money and I get 4x4 although I probably don't need it in normal operation.
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#22
If you're really solid on buying the trailer, talk to the seller about a modest/reasonable non-refundable holding deposit. Discuss conditions, like it being contingent on no undisclosed material defects etc. That is assuming this is a situation where you WILL be buying the trailer barring any glaring defects. Its done with aircraft quite a bit.
#23
The hitch prep kit came in. Now we are waiting for Nichols Manufacturing and Welding Services to ship us the camera/TPMS harness and metal box for plug so we can mount the 7-pin/12-pin plug in bed. Once we have the harness and box we will schedule a date for Ken's to install everything.
#24
that is why I will go with the factory fifth wheel prep and add 4x4 to get it. I am not seeking to go off road but it could be useful. Also the factory fifth wheel prep option seems to be really strong with extra ribs under the box. It just seems like an easy decision for me.
#25
that is why I will go with the factory fifth wheel prep and add 4x4 to get it. I am not seeking to go off road but it could be useful. Also the factory fifth wheel prep option seems to be really strong with extra ribs under the box. It just seems like an easy decision for me.
#27
Caution on 5th Wheel Hitch install!!
Be aware that in many states, if you install, (or have installed) a 5th wheel hitch that requires drilling into the frame, (which many aftermarket hitch installs do) then you run the risk of having your trucks title designated as "frame damaged". So, when you go to re-sell or trade-in this of can significantly affect the trade-in/ re-sale value! I learned this the hard way with my first 5th wheel hauler. Many manufacturers have a bolt on alternative - but realize you will need to periodically re-check the torque under the truck. Better to wait the extra time for the factory set-up. Yes, it is a Reese-type pin connector, but if you don't have a Reese brand, you can typically get adaptors for your brand. I have a Demco Auto-slide (which works great on my SD short-bed) and when I got my new truck, I simply had to have Demco send me new adaptor side plates and pins. Now, removing or installing the hitch is a snap!
#28
Be aware that in many states, if you install, (or have installed) a 5th wheel hitch that requires drilling into the frame, (which many aftermarket hitch installs do) then you run the risk of having your trucks title designated as "frame damaged". So, when you go to re-sell or trade-in this of can significantly affect the trade-in/ re-sale value! I learned this the hard way with my first 5th wheel hauler. Many manufacturers have a bolt on alternative - but realize you will need to periodically re-check the torque under the truck. Better to wait the extra time for the factory set-up. Yes, it is a Reese-type pin connector, but if you don't have a Reese brand, you can typically get adaptors for your brand. I have a Demco Auto-slide (which works great on my SD short-bed) and when I got my new truck, I simply had to have Demco send me new adaptor side plates and pins. Now, removing or installing the hitch is a snap!
The fifth wheel/gooseneck prep kit sold on the Ford accessory site is the exact same part as they use for the 4x4 2017 Super Duty. The only drilling required to install the fifth wheel/gooseneck prep kit is 5 holes in the bed. The part that attaches to the frame bolts into pre-existing holes.
The Reese kit, when it becomes available for the 2017 Super Duty, will bolt onto the frame using the same pre-existing holes the frame as the Ford kit uses. The Reese kit can be installed with or without the gooseneck.
We are using an B&W companion with OEM legs.
Here is the finished install
Pucks
B&W Companion
7/12 pin Plug
#30
The body shops at Ford dealers were just a oblivious about installing the fifth wheel/gooseneck prep kit as dealerships without body shops. Dealerships kept referring me to truck accessory stores, but they would only install the Reese kit which is not available yet for the 2017, or a proprietary kit (B&W turnover ball, Pullrite, etc). I ended up driving 1 1/2 to a hitch shop that was willing to install the kit if I provided the kit.