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Old 07-09-2016, 11:08 PM
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A friend gave us an old flathead he had in his yard as he liked them back in the day and thought we could use it for the project.

We are targeting a different engine but maybe this one.

He could not identify it and thought it maybe a truck version.

We never worked on any so we are clueless.

Here are some photos to review and if there is a place for casting or forging marks please advise.

looks like it was port covered before storage but it seemed stuck but we did not try too much.




 
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Old 07-10-2016, 12:18 AM
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That's a 30's or 40's flathead, I think it may be a 221 c.i. It could work but the fan likely won't work with the truck radiator and shroud and it's not likely to be worth trying.
 
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We thought it was different.

Distributor out the front looks unusual to us but we grew up with ohv.

The spark plugs stand out as they look like huge original ports fitted with a bushing to allow more modern size.
 
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The water pumps beiing in the head identifies it as very early. Not a great design, very expensive crankshaft/rod bearings. I'd look elsewhere. Where are you? I have sources for flatheads.
 
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Originally Posted by tq60
We thought it was different

The spark plugs stand out as they look like huge original ports fitted with a bushing to allow more modern size.
Probably 'non-foulers' commonly used on worn engines that pumped so much excessive oil into the cylinders that they fouled the plugs quickly. They shroud the end of spark plug and reduce the amount of oil contamination while also reducing the amount of spark to ignite the fuel charge. Basically a band-aid on a gun-shot wound and the first indication of a worn out engine.
 
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Forgot about those oil blockers...could be.

It just looks like the hole is huge so combined with comment about water pump in head then very likely real old.

May be handy for a serial number for title, where is it?

The engine in donor is much different
 
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My guess is that is a 35 or 36 motor. It would have babbit bearings instead of inserts. Might be valuable to an early Ford restorer.
 
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I believe the 221's used 3/4 or 7/8" spark plugs, expensive nowadays.
 
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Unless you need that particular series engine, it is a boat anchor. Don't trash it, someone may want parts of it. I thought the very early series had floating bearing inserts on the rods. Could be wrong on the bearings, it has been a long time.
 
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As others have stated that is a 1932-1936 motor. The intake is 34 or later. Depending on the condition of the block and what block it is it may or may not be that desirable. The block can be identified by the oil pan rail, area between the water inlets and distributor, and the spacing of the main cap bolts. For details see the big block identification thread we did over on the Ford Barn:
Engine block I.D. pictures - The Ford Barn
 
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A good friend gave us the motor as he got it for free.

We have a donor vehicle targeted and was not planning on using it.

The donor is not the usual engine...

Keeping that a secret until we actually can work on it.

The 6.0 is going to be first work.
 
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