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At least he got rid of those uni directional tires.
Looks better now!. 27k better?
Is that Rods tow rig in the last picture? He sure has /had some neat trucks.. Would love to see that collection in person.
The 9.00 x 16" NDT military tires were on the yellow F-2. F-2 M-Hs have the Budd 47210 16s that give a world of tire options. Why Rod mounted the NDTs on it I don't know. The F-3 has the correct Budd 59340s with iirc 7.50 x 17" Coursers. The F-8 was his too. Mark Mossell, Bob Jones and I made a couple of visits to Rod a few years ago. I spent most of my visits laying on my back under the F-2 and F-3. Stu
Mixer man, It's my understanding that an F3 is a "Heavy Duty" 3/4 ton. I'm not sure just what the difference is between an F2 and F3 but suspect it has to do with the suspension and load capacity, axle bearings,spring pack,etc....
In the US market a 2WD F-2 is a light duty 3/4 ton, while the F-3 is a heavy duty 3/4. The F-4 was a one ton. In Canada the 2WD F-3/F-68/M-68/M-3 was called a one ton, and no F-2 was sold there. I don't recall what the F-4/F-105 was termed.
But, M-H upgraded the weight rating of their F-2 model from 5700 lbs to the 6800 lb rating of the F-3. Heavy duty springs were spec'd. The only differences between F-2 and F-3 M-Hs are the wheels, and rear shock absorbers. The F-2 got the 16" Budd 47210s, while F-3s got the 17" Budd 44820s or 59340s. F-3s got no rear shocks as per standard Ford practice, although they were optional on 2WD F-3s. The M-H F-2s, having rear lift blocks, got specially designed lower shock mounts that have an upward bend at the shock mounting point where standard 2WD F-2s got shock mounts that bend downward. No idea why the small differences if the intent was to rate them both at 6800 lbs.
I ended up having to run the adapter plate on the inside of the wheel. With it mounted on the outside, the bolts/nuts that hold it in place would contact the brake drum and cause mounting interference. With the plate mounted inside the wheel how it is, the inboard side of the wheel lip (the outer edge) is exactly the same distance from the frame as the stock wheel was. So frame to wheel clearance hasn't changed any. Also, the wheels do not stick out past the body. They are almost even with the fender now.
Very cool truck, Dirtbag. Question...I'm looking at the same wheels for a Super Duty-based vintage FC170 Patina Rod I'm building. I can't seem to find wheel offset information anywhere online for the 20" x 10" aluminum MRAP wheels. Is there any chance you could post a couple measurements to the wheel mounting surface?
I also plan on using 3/8" steel adapter plates (but I'll be buying mine from Western Canadian Rockwell vs. making them).
Sure. Text messages have been circulating all evening about it among our M-H guys, and a young man on Fordbarn sounds like a bidder. It has some unique features that make it real interesting. Deserves its own thread. Stu
Been awhile since last I checked in, time to give an update. I swaped out the throttle linkage, and now have it to the proper (left) side of the carburetor. *wow shocked* *what a difference it made. *This is my first flathead, and from it's previous performance, I assumed these things were just way under powered and just plan slow. I chalked it up as it being a 70+ year old motor (59AB, although it looks to be a newer rebuild) Now that the linkage is properly routed, this thing rocks. The first initial test run after the change, I was at the end of the driveway, seen the gap in traffic, (second gear take off) dropped the throttle like normal to jump into my place in traffic and the back duals lit up. I couldn't believe the performance difference, I literally was suprised. I didn't know any better before, as I had nothing to go off of, but I bet the old rigged up linkage was only letting the carburetor opperate at 1/3 to 1/2 throttle. I assumed all these old trucks were just plain really slow.....not so any more.*
Don't get me wrong, I'm not out hotroding the truck (I drive it like the antique farm truck it is) but I was so use to having to push the pedal down to get the thing up to speed. I'm very happy with it's new found power, I can get up and keep up with traffic now :-)
You just discovered one of two main reasons flathead Fords were and are more popular than any other make from that era. The other reason is they are built tougher and last longer. Puts a big smile on your face
06-03-2016, 10:38 PM
Question...I'm looking at the same wheels for a Super Duty-based vintage FC170 Patina Rod I'm building. I can't seem to find wheel offset information anywhere online for the 20" x 10" aluminum MRAP wheels. Is there any chance you could post a couple measurements to the wheel mounting surface?
