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Old 11-17-2015, 06:16 PM
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Hello First Post and First truck.

Well I'm no kid 50 years old. Sure I've owned a SUV but never a truck. I was given a 2003 extra cab and was told the motor is blown. This was part of a deal. My friend had two trucks at his inlaws. 2001 F250 5.4 and the 03 with 4.6. He has no budget to buy a motor and the 250 was supposedly driven to it's parking spot last year. He put gas in it and it did not run. I went over and we put a squirt in the throttle body and it started. Tried this till my squirt bottle was out always the same result. I said it would be easier to fix over at my house. Now both trucks are here. I pulled the tank and put a pump in 250/5.4 and the rear brake line was toast so I fixed that. Went to crank it and got a little sputter so I thought I'd help it along and put a squirt in the throttle body. Went to crank it and got a backfire. Now just clank, clank no crank? I pulled the plugs and still clank no crank. ????? I just was browsing this forum and saw posts about AC locking up holding back the starter or bad/weak starters. I'm pretty mechanical but at a loss at to why it went from starting to nothing, right when I though all the work was done. I did put a battery on the 4.6 it it sounded the same....clank. I wonder if the motor is really blown? First I have to fix the 250 for my friend. No way the motor got hurt by one backfire?

So glad I found this forum. I can't wait to fix my first truck. Red 2003 ex cab 4x4,
 
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:46 PM
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Well it's not the AC, took belt off still goes clank. Either starter or motor? Funny it would start just the other day with a squirt of gas.
 
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:01 PM
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crawl under the radiator and put a socket on the crank center bolt and turn it... or take the flywheel tin cover off and use a 18 inch screw driver to move the motor 90 degrees ?
 
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:35 PM
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I put the longest wrench I had on it a torque wrench. No plugs tried to turn it clockwise and nothing? I could not budge it. It ran before it backfired??????
 
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:22 PM
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you have the spark plugs out.. I would take the fan belt off so you have no drag from the AC / alternator / steering pump....... if you cant bar it over then, you have a big problem. I don't see how a backfire would do something major, but I would look at the cam chain area on the front end.
----------im wondering if it had a problem when it was parked... did you ever see the oil psi gauge jump up ?
 
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Old 11-19-2015, 04:48 AM
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Yes when it ran with the squirts of gas you could see the oil pressure come up. Fan belt was off when I tried to turn it. I'm with you I don't see how a backfire would lock up an engine. I was going to take the starter off and have it tested or buy one since I have the other truck to put an engine in anyway.

Ideas? What could possibly be holding it?
 
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Old 11-19-2015, 08:08 AM
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well, the starter is a long shot, but backfire might have bent something and locked it up......... its an easy check ! Remove starter, then bar the motor over.
 
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Removed Starter, still have belt off and plugs out. Stood on torque wrench and only turned bolt. Engine never moved. I could try a screw driver on flywheel but think it's toast?????????
 
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Old 11-21-2015, 09:04 AM
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OK was about to call the guy and tell him it's dead, but my never quit attitude said try one more time. I took a screwdriver and low and behold the engine turns backwards. I can put a regular 1/2 inch ratchet on it and turn it. It will turn multiple revolutions backwards but seems to catch something at the same spot on a forward revolution. Sounds like the thud is coming form the transmission/converter area. Took inspection cover off, no sign of anything abnormal?

Any Ideas??????
 
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