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Old 07-07-2015, 04:39 AM
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Truck stalls after downshifting zf6

Lately when I am coming to a stop and roll up to a stoplight/sign in gear the rpms drop too much and it stalls. I let the clutch back out and it starts back, but will stall again if I coast in gear again.

If I just push in the clutch without the rpm's coming up like to change gears it doesn't stall, only when I downshift when stopping and then once I push in the clutch the rpms drop and don't recover.

Truck runs great otherwise, new motorcraft icp and cps doesn't help. Thinking maybe ipr, but idk. I can rev it in neutral and it doesn't stall only when it's under load coasting, it's like the injectors don't recover from being off while coasting in gear.
 
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mine WAS doing the same thing. Would drop rpm, if thrown in N, coasting to stop. I finally got around to changing the fuel filters, at the bowl and prepump. Honestly, i have yet to see/hear the problem comeback. I'll repost later today, since i got some running around to do
 
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:02 AM
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Changed the filter when I put in a new fuel pump a few months ago. Still runs great otherwise, mpg's are good once I fixed my stuck caliper lol.
 
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So if it's getting ready to stall with the clutch pushed in, and the foot off the brake, what happens if you rev the go pedal a little?

RPM's pick up and a no stall or does the truck surge a little like maybe the clutch disc didn't disengage?
 
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Old 07-07-2015, 08:19 PM
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If I hit the go peddle it will save it, no stall, clutch is only a year old or so. New hydraulics about 3 months ago.
 
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by timmyboy76
mine WAS doing the same thing. Would drop rpm, if thrown in N, coasting to stop. I finally got around to changing the fuel filters, at the bowl and prepump. Honestly, i have yet to see/hear the problem comeback. I'll repost later today, since i got some running around to do
It does it when rpms are up from downshifting coming to a stop. Then I push in the clutch and it stalls.
 
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:29 AM
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yup...mines' the same way. There was one time where it dropped to about 300rpm, and it "caught" to stay alive....driving yesterday, i forgot to "listen/watch" for it. I think for me, it was a combo of both filters. Heading to beach today, so i'll pay attention, note if anything happens
 
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:44 PM
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yup...mines' the same way. There was one time where it dropped to about 300rpm, and it "caught" to stay alive....driving yesterday, i forgot to "listen/watch" for it. I think for me, it was a combo of both filters. Heading to beach today, so i'll pay attention, note if anything happens
Mine was catching to stay alive, but dies most times now.
 
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:11 PM
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fresh oil, new fuel filter, no change.
 
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Old 07-11-2015, 02:43 PM
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After reading the thread, I'm more convinced it's HPOP related than Transmission.

I would monitor a few PIDs just to eliminate them as a possible cause:

ICP 500 PSI or 3.4 MPAM Minimum the ICP should steadily climb during cranking. This indicates a healthy HPOP depending upon how high it climbs. It should be between 480 - 520 at idle.

ICPv (KOEO) Spec 0.20v - 0.30v This is important to check KOEO to verify the sensor is within range electrically.

FUEL PW: 1 MS - 6 MS (<1 / >6 IDM Suspect)

DC% - Cranking NTE 20% / 65% is closed. (IPR Suspect) 10% - 14% at Idle.

Low RPM's could also be an indication of starting / charging system problems which is drawing engine RPMs down when your coasting to a stop.

FUEL PW - Even though a 1 to 6 mS FUEL PW is shown, it’s possible the IDM did not receive the signal due to a CI or FDCS circuit fault or internal IDM failure or communications failure between the IDM and FP.

Hope this helps,

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After reading the thread, I'm more convinced it's HPOP related than Transmission.

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good hypothesis, but in my position, i have an aux fuel supply, which, when driving on it, DOES NOT harbor rpms's when downshifting/throwing in N...etc.
 
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:42 AM
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It runs great otherwise, I don't think it's the tranny for sure or the hpop . It's like the injectors never wake up after a while coasting in gear. Might try to rebuild my ipr, don't want to throw too much money at it haha.
 
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