When To Use OD
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Yes, that's what is supposed to do- but it usually feels like it has not shifted out of the higher gear when I start out with the OD engaged... When I have it switched out, I have a much more effective takeoff... I've never had an OD trans that felt like it was bogging before in OD before... This one does- which may be part of the reason I keep getting a transient transmission CCC code- may be it is not dropping out of 4th- which will give a sluggish takeoff. When done manually, I can feel good, solid shifts up- and then kidk it into 4th, and all is fine.
Scott
Scott
It is all in your head. Turning off over drive changed NOTHING other than the ability Not to go into 4th.
It is NOT tow/haul mode like the newer trucks that changes shift points
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ALSO remember that when you put the e4od OUT of overdrive, the next time you start the truck, the OD will be turned back on again.
I run my truck out of OD most of the time. I live in the mountains. When I go to the flatlands, I turn on the OD and hear the engine slow down a bit.
(Apologies for the wording. I'm very tired right now.)
I run my truck out of OD most of the time. I live in the mountains. When I go to the flatlands, I turn on the OD and hear the engine slow down a bit.
(Apologies for the wording. I'm very tired right now.)
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For the most part the transmission/computer does a great job deciding when to use OD and in my opinion most should just let it. If it's not doing a great job deciding when to use OD then likely something is out of adjustment or not working right.
However one thing not mentioned here is an aspect of what OD is, why it's not just another gear. In the example automatic transmissions at issue 3rd is direct drive, this means internally the input shaft is directly connected to the output shaft which is directly connected to the engine via the torque converter clutch. Essentially the driveline might as well be connected directly to the crankshaft. This is a little more efficient as far as internal drag is concerned but more important it creates much less heat. Towing or hauling a heavy load at high throttle for long periods in OD can be a good way to overheat a transmission. In such a situation depending on conditions forcing the transmission to stay in 3rd and keeping the RPMs up can be better for the transmission.
As said above most transmissions should do this anyway as needed though. If you can climb a hill with a heavy load at high throttle and stay in OD when 3rd would work at that speed then something is wrong with your automatic transmission controls.
However one thing not mentioned here is an aspect of what OD is, why it's not just another gear. In the example automatic transmissions at issue 3rd is direct drive, this means internally the input shaft is directly connected to the output shaft which is directly connected to the engine via the torque converter clutch. Essentially the driveline might as well be connected directly to the crankshaft. This is a little more efficient as far as internal drag is concerned but more important it creates much less heat. Towing or hauling a heavy load at high throttle for long periods in OD can be a good way to overheat a transmission. In such a situation depending on conditions forcing the transmission to stay in 3rd and keeping the RPMs up can be better for the transmission.
As said above most transmissions should do this anyway as needed though. If you can climb a hill with a heavy load at high throttle and stay in OD when 3rd would work at that speed then something is wrong with your automatic transmission controls.
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chip truck at 8k lbs w/ 3.55's will downshift up hills just empty (when driving under 55 mph)
log truck at 10k lbs w/ 5.13's probably wont downshift up the same hill until fully loaded/towing.
log truck enters od somewhere around 27 mph.locking out od..........ah.id like double over please!
really you don't have much concern about canceling OD unless you have a 302 truck and driving in the mountains.you just don't want them to gear hunt back and forth between 3rd and od that's all.you wont help much of anything canceling od otherwise.it's helpful when coming downhill to help take a load off the brakes.towing in od isn't harmful to the e40d or anything.it's the zf5's iirc that can't handle OD towing.
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