Have a 70 F-100 problem.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 12-16-2014, 11:16 PM
theonefordfan's Avatar
theonefordfan
theonefordfan is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Have a 70 F-100 problem.

I have a 70 Ford F-100, I got it about two years ago from a sketchy type of guy. I knew it was a project but I've been scratching my brain on this one. The engine I have is a 390, I'm sure on that. But the door says it was a 360, I pulled the pan off and saw the oil pump goes from front to rear, did some research, I have 4x4 and from what I saw, they only produced 4x4 with 360 not 390. Anyways, the problem I'm having is, with my engine I knew there was a timing issue, so I re timed it, got it going and it seemed fine for a couple days, then it went to crap again. I replaced the hold down clamp because I was told after a while those tend to go to crap. So once again I timed it and put the new hold down on it, it ran GREAT for a while. I own some property out of town and I said I would help a friend get out of a hole he dug in his 4x4 out there. So I get there and help him out have it run idle for maybe 2 hours. I head home and I loose total power, seemed like at the time that it was starved of fuel. So I tapped the gas a few times and it made a huge "THUMP" sound like a really bad gear change and regained power. I was just driving like ok limp home and check it in the morning. Well I get around the next corner and the same thing happens, but this time it back fired really loudly. It regained power and was limping really badly down the road, all of a sudden I loose power again. This time she dies and rolls off the road into a small ditch. I let her sit for about 5 minutes called to get some help and they said try to restart it one more time. So I did, and it made the most awful grinding sound coming from the starter and wouldn't turn over. I will check the starter tomorrow to see if it fell out of something, but I still need help wondering why this happened I've been thinking on it for a long time and the only problem I ever had with the truck is it back fire when I killed the engine. Otherwise nothing. I'm stumped and decided to join here for some help cause everyone I live by is a die hard Chevy and are actually kinda crude to a ford in need... Anything helps.
 
  #2  
Old 12-17-2014, 05:28 AM
jowilker's Avatar
jowilker
jowilker is offline
Fleet Owner

Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Creedmoor, North Carolina
Posts: 24,552
Received 46 Likes on 44 Posts
theonefordfan Welcome to and the FE forum.

You say that you know it's a 390, how so?

One can't look at them and tell the difference in a 360 and 390. They use the same bore block, with a different rotating system.

I think you issues are minor, I am going to suggest that you find an older fellow that knows his way around older Fords. That is what I do with my 66 F100 FE. He & I have an understanding of the truck, if there is a little issue he may listen, say raise the hood grab a carb screw and adjust it, or this or that. Close the hood and say give that a try. I'll usually fold a $10 or 20.00 bill hand it to him and drive away. He likes doing things the rest of the guys at the shop only think they can.

Makes a difference, give it a try. Don't sweat the chevy guy, they are air heads anyways.


John
 
  #3  
Old 12-17-2014, 09:06 AM
69cj's Avatar
69cj
69cj is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Middle Tn.
Posts: 13,827
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
I would also be checking the timing chain. Timing shouldn't change like that. I've never had a hold down clamp fail. Nothing to them to fail.
 
  #4  
Old 12-17-2014, 07:20 PM
theonefordfan's Avatar
theonefordfan
theonefordfan is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Im positive its a 390 I measured the stroke with a dowl rod a buddy of mine had. I just need ideas, if I knew someone who knew these engines, I would have went there first. I just need a list of what to check, as the other guy said, I will check the timing chain maybe its off by a tooth.
 
  #5  
Old 12-17-2014, 09:40 PM
1972RedNeck's Avatar
1972RedNeck
1972RedNeck is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Townsend, MT
Posts: 3,521
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by jowilker
theonefordfan Welcome to and the FE forum.

You say that you know it's a 390, how so?

One can't look at them and tell the difference in a 360 and 390. They use the same bore block, with a different rotating system.

I think you issues are minor, I am going to suggest that you find an older fellow that knows his way around older Fords. That is what I do with my 66 F100 FE. He & I have an understanding of the truck, if there is a little issue he may listen, say raise the hood grab a carb screw and adjust it, or this or that. Close the hood and say give that a try. I'll usually fold a $10 or 20.00 bill hand it to him and drive away. He likes doing things the rest of the guys at the shop only think they can.
If an engine starts running bad, dies, and then won't turn over, I wouldn't consider the problems to be "minor" - but then again, I haven't been around the block near as many times as some of the dinosaurs on here.
 
  #6  
Old 12-18-2014, 03:55 AM
jowilker's Avatar
jowilker
jowilker is offline
Fleet Owner

Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Creedmoor, North Carolina
Posts: 24,552
Received 46 Likes on 44 Posts
Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
If an engine starts running bad, dies, and then won't turn over, I wouldn't consider the problems to be "minor" - but then again, I haven't been around the block near as many times as some of the dinosaurs on here.
Don't disagree at all. My observation when it works and then don't work it's minor, when it stops cold and won't go again til something is replaced, not so much.

I thought that is what I read in the OP, hit & miss.


John
 
  #7  
Old 12-23-2014, 09:07 AM
MIKES 68 F100's Avatar
MIKES 68 F100
MIKES 68 F100 is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Antelope Valley ,CA
Posts: 4,744
Received 21 Likes on 15 Posts
Welcome to FTE
I'd check out your timing chain , some of them had nylon coated gears , after awhile the nylon breaks off and you are left with a lot of slack in timing chain . so you could have jumped a tooth or two or three ..
 
  #8  
Old 12-23-2014, 09:08 AM
skuff44's Avatar
skuff44
skuff44 is offline
New User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TRADE WITH ME
 
  #9  
Old 01-01-2015, 10:36 PM
mikeo0o0o0's Avatar
mikeo0o0o0
mikeo0o0o0 is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Stanley, VA
Posts: 14,315
Received 203 Likes on 161 Posts
Another thing to check. The distributor driven gear, it's attached to the shaft with a roll pin. Not too uncommon for the pin to shear allowing the gear to spin on the shaft.
 
  #10  
Old 01-04-2015, 11:51 AM
Hypoid's Avatar
Hypoid
Hypoid is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Golden, CO
Posts: 2,572
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Another vote for a new timing set.

I have had a few different engines jump time. I try to take off, it hesitates. I floor the gas, it jumps and runs like a raped-ape. Shut the engine down, the backlash jumps the timing enough to keep it from starting.

The good news is the stock FE won't have any piston to valve interference when the timing jumps.
 
  #11  
Old 01-04-2015, 12:32 PM
arctic y block's Avatar
arctic y block
arctic y block is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Island Southeast Alaska
Posts: 14,325
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
I also say ya are in need of a timing set. It's not hard to do
if your mechanically inclined. But it don't sound like you are.
Still with a good repair manual most anyone can do it with
the help of your FTE friends on here. There are them of us
that have had this happen and fixed it so many times that
we have forgot how to explain it to others. What you have
described is typical for an FE that is jumping timing. So go
get greasy Bud and welcome here.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wbeauchamp
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
04-13-2016 08:59 PM
MERKNV
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
17
07-24-2009 10:10 PM
sfc11b
FE & FT Big Block V8 (332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428)
7
06-26-2004 06:15 PM
SFC DAVIS
FE & FT Big Block V8 (332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428)
1
10-28-2003 03:10 PM
ivanhoe 66
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
04-08-2002 02:03 PM



Quick Reply: Have a 70 F-100 problem.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:38 AM.