Oil FIlter relocate 292
#1
Oil FIlter relocate 292
Howdy all,
I am finishing up my filter relocate and I thought some might want to see how it turned out.
I'll use a remote filter mount and adapter from an OMC King Cobra (marine) 460 V-8.
The entire mess came from my 21ft boat back (replacing the 460 with a Mercruiser 454) in 2005 and I pretty much sold everything only keeping "stuff' I might use later!
The oil filter adapter and mount are aluminum and pretty nice quality so I decided to use it on my 292 since they used pretty much same filter size.
Here's the before picture:
Since I am using a rather different way of mounting the transmission, AND using Rams Horns, the exhaust down-pipe was going to interfere with the current oil filter location.
I made those engine mounts using Dodge truck (cummins) mounts because they're flat (and cheep!).
As you can see, the "down-pipe' had to "bend" back to miss the mount but placed it right through the oil filter so I used the OMC filter adapter and put the oil filter in front of the engine mount.
I considered using flexible hose for the oil lines but since the adapter and filter "base" are both rigidly mounted to the engine & (upper) eng-mount, there is no relative movement between them.
This allowed me to use aluminum tubing. I used Aircraft AN fittings and 3003-0 aluminum 5/8" tubing (designed for fuel, oil and low-press hydraulic use) I obtained from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty
I also have the fuel filter mount from the same engine so it will allow me to use the OMC (spin-on, water separating) fuel filter too. I'll also probably use an electric fuel pump
Regards,
Rick
I am finishing up my filter relocate and I thought some might want to see how it turned out.
I'll use a remote filter mount and adapter from an OMC King Cobra (marine) 460 V-8.
The entire mess came from my 21ft boat back (replacing the 460 with a Mercruiser 454) in 2005 and I pretty much sold everything only keeping "stuff' I might use later!
The oil filter adapter and mount are aluminum and pretty nice quality so I decided to use it on my 292 since they used pretty much same filter size.
Here's the before picture:
Since I am using a rather different way of mounting the transmission, AND using Rams Horns, the exhaust down-pipe was going to interfere with the current oil filter location.
I made those engine mounts using Dodge truck (cummins) mounts because they're flat (and cheep!).
As you can see, the "down-pipe' had to "bend" back to miss the mount but placed it right through the oil filter so I used the OMC filter adapter and put the oil filter in front of the engine mount.
I considered using flexible hose for the oil lines but since the adapter and filter "base" are both rigidly mounted to the engine & (upper) eng-mount, there is no relative movement between them.
This allowed me to use aluminum tubing. I used Aircraft AN fittings and 3003-0 aluminum 5/8" tubing (designed for fuel, oil and low-press hydraulic use) I obtained from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty
I also have the fuel filter mount from the same engine so it will allow me to use the OMC (spin-on, water separating) fuel filter too. I'll also probably use an electric fuel pump
Regards,
Rick
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#3
It's an E4OD bolted to a Bentsen adapter.
I thought about using a ZF 6 speed or even a 5 speed. (They've been used up to and including the F450)
I don't know who might make an adapter for them though. I know this one will not work with a ZF but they could probably make one.
It's not really the adapter that's the problem, but the flywheel and clutch/pressure plate.
I don't know why someone hasn't done it yet. The ZF would be an outstanding trans behind a Y-block!
My E4OD came out of a diesel F450. A friend who rebuilds transmissions for a living rebuilt mine using a different case (for a 300-6//302 V-8)
The adapter is for the that (smaller) case but the trans internals are the same. I also wanted the trans because I could use the tail-shaft mounted E-brake (which also works with the ZF)
#4
Howdy,
It's an E4OD bolted to a Bentsen adapter.
I thought about using a ZF 6 speed or even a 5 speed. (They've been used up to and including the F450)
I don't know who might make an adapter for them though. I know this one will not work with a ZF but they could probably make one.
It's not really the adapter that's the problem, but the flywheel and clutch/pressure plate.
I don't know why someone hasn't done it yet. The ZF would be an outstanding trans behind a Y-block!
My E4OD came out of a diesel F450. A friend who rebuilds transmissions for a living rebuilt mine using a different case (for a 300-6//302 V-8)
The adapter is for the that (smaller) case but the trans internals are the same. I also wanted the trans because I could use the tail-shaft mounted E-brake (which also works with the ZF)
It's an E4OD bolted to a Bentsen adapter.
I thought about using a ZF 6 speed or even a 5 speed. (They've been used up to and including the F450)
I don't know who might make an adapter for them though. I know this one will not work with a ZF but they could probably make one.
It's not really the adapter that's the problem, but the flywheel and clutch/pressure plate.
I don't know why someone hasn't done it yet. The ZF would be an outstanding trans behind a Y-block!
My E4OD came out of a diesel F450. A friend who rebuilds transmissions for a living rebuilt mine using a different case (for a 300-6//302 V-8)
The adapter is for the that (smaller) case but the trans internals are the same. I also wanted the trans because I could use the tail-shaft mounted E-brake (which also works with the ZF)
I think the ZF truck input spline is 1-3/8" which just happens to match the T98 that I have now, so someone might be able to use the original flywheel\clutch assembly. I keep forgetting that the original Y bell housing bolts to the cross member and I'm not sure if the ZF has bosses in the bell housing or how to deal with that issue as my F100 cross member is not removable.
#5
Thanks for the excellent feedback. I know the ZF is rock solid, I have one in my 2004 Caddy CTSV with 222K miles on it, with original clutch even
I think the ZF truck input spline is 1-3/8" which just happens to match the T98 that I have now, so someone might be able to use the original flywheel\clutch assembly. I keep forgetting that the original Y bell housing bolts to the cross member and I'm not sure if the ZF has bosses in the bell housing or how to deal with that issue as my F100 cross member is not removable.
I think the ZF truck input spline is 1-3/8" which just happens to match the T98 that I have now, so someone might be able to use the original flywheel\clutch assembly. I keep forgetting that the original Y bell housing bolts to the cross member and I'm not sure if the ZF has bosses in the bell housing or how to deal with that issue as my F100 cross member is not removable.
I don't think it would be all that hard to use a different flywheel/clutch and pressure plate. You'd only need to get the alignment correct and bolt pattern.
You would probably need to use a spacer similar to the one I am using to bolt the 300-6 flex-plate to the Y crankshaft.
Check with Bentsen on that. He may have one made up already. ( I also think he makes one-off adapters too) Ford Y-Block Transmission Adapters
My adapter was intended to be used with an AOD/AODE and it might be compatible with the ZF for a SBF............... The E4OD is also usable but it must be one that was intended to bolt to either a 300-6, 302 and possibly the 351
Built right, the E4OD is a very strong transmission. Even used in the F550 with the 7.3L diesel, and 460. But the internals are interchangable even with the heavier E4OD 's and 4R-100's
#6
Yeah. Neither does the E4OD. that's why I had to fab side engine mounts and a cross-member for the back of the trans.
I don't think it would be all that hard to use a different flywheel/clutch and pressure plate. You'd only need to get the alignment correct and bolt pattern.
You would probably need to use a spacer similar to the one I am using to bolt the 300-6 flex-plate to the Y crankshaft.
Check with Bentsen on that. He may have one made up already. ( I also think he makes one-off adapters too) Ford Y-Block Transmission Adapters
My adapter was intended to be used with an AOD/AODE and it might be compatible with the ZF for a SBF............... The E4OD is also usable but it must be one that was intended to bolt to either a 300-6, 302 and possibly the 351
Built right, the E4OD is a very strong transmission. Even used in the F550 with the 7.3L diesel, and 460. But the internals are interchangable even with the heavier E4OD 's and 4R-100's
I don't think it would be all that hard to use a different flywheel/clutch and pressure plate. You'd only need to get the alignment correct and bolt pattern.
You would probably need to use a spacer similar to the one I am using to bolt the 300-6 flex-plate to the Y crankshaft.
Check with Bentsen on that. He may have one made up already. ( I also think he makes one-off adapters too) Ford Y-Block Transmission Adapters
My adapter was intended to be used with an AOD/AODE and it might be compatible with the ZF for a SBF............... The E4OD is also usable but it must be one that was intended to bolt to either a 300-6, 302 and possibly the 351
Built right, the E4OD is a very strong transmission. Even used in the F550 with the 7.3L diesel, and 460. But the internals are interchangable even with the heavier E4OD 's and 4R-100's
#7
Great looking adapters! Thanks for the link. I just went and looked under my truck and decided I want to try and leave everything stock from the bell housing forward. so if I can find a semi modern 5 speed that will mate to a y block truck bell housing I'd be all set.
Good luck though!
Rick
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#8
Great looking adapters! Thanks for the link. I just went and looked under my truck and decided I want to try and leave everything stock from the bell housing forward. so if I can find a semi modern 5 speed that will mate to a y block truck bell housing I'd be all set.
#10
I did think of that.....It does look close doesn't it? ............... the line actually goes no closer than about an inch and a half or so....................So, I might put some Aviation firesleeve over it Just to be sure!
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Rick
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