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Old 06-12-2014, 09:10 PM
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Question 7.3 HID Kit

Hey guys, I'm new to the fourm

Well I bought my first vehicle, a 2000 7.3 Powerstroke from my friend. I want to start making it "my own", so I'm thinking about getting an HID kit. I've got the 6.0 Harley edition headlights. For a 16 year old with a diesel and who races motocross, money's tight. I was looking at this kit on ebay. I know they wont be the best lights in the world, but I love the look of HIDs. Anyone out there with HIDs, have you ever had any electrical problems? I've heard they can screw with your PCM and stuff which I obviously dont want. Heres the kit:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XENON-HID-KIT-High-Low-beam-H4-H13-9007-5000k-6000k-8000k-hi-lo-type-hid-kit-/350885997293?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51b26f6aed&vxp=mtr
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:23 PM
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I had them for 2 months now with no issues. They are awesome at night and also love the way they look.
 
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:29 PM
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They say hi/lo, but the pics are of just low. Firefighter, do the ones you have move for hi/lo or are they fixed? The frustrating thing about 9007 bi-xenon hids is its almost impossible to get the right ones. If you pay attention almost every kit you get the bulb moves mostly in and out. It does tilt up just a little bit but not very much. If you look at your factory bulb, the filaments are directly one above the other. When I got my first HID kit i couldn't figure out why the beam moved mostly side to side instead of up and down. So i started looking and realized that the HIDs weren't actually mimicking the real bulbs. Once I figured this out I started searching and finally after about 2 years I found a company that the bulbs tilt instead of moving in and out. They said most companys do this because they're easier to make and last longer. Its hidwerks.com but last time i heard even they couldn't get them anymore. I guess if these are just lows this is irrelevant, but if you get bi-xenons and you don't like the beams thats why. Just something to beware of.

Check this website out. It explains some of the HID issues. It calls them "swing" bulbs. Thats what you want.

http://betterautomotivelighting.com/...nd-9007-bulbs/

Edit: After reading more about the bulbs listed on that website, I'm not sure they actually do tilt. It says they "swing in and out". That sounds like more of the same problem. But it still has some info on some of the things to expect when buying 9007 HIDs
 
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:52 PM
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This is what you want the bulb to do.
 
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:26 AM
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Chris, I have had them for years now in '05 housing with no issues other than i have a bad bulb that does not always fire up. I don't know about NY but in CA headlights must be white or yellow per the vehicle code so double check NY law before you buy some bulbs in the higher kelvin scale. Anything higher than 5000K you are getting into light spectrum's that the eye does not pick up readily and the they begin to take on a blue tint the higher the kelvin number. In CA a lot of people are running the high kelvin bulbs because they think they look cool but are illegal and they put themselves at risk for citations. I have 5000K in my truck and I live in the mountains where there are no street lights and they do a great good at putting out good visible light.

Justin, Where are you getting your information? If you look at a standard factory style single headlight bulb and the inside of the headlight housing you will determine that the the bulb filaments are staggered. One filament is in front of the other and this corresponds to the shielding inside the headlight housing. On low beam the the filament is shielded by a shroud in the headlight to limit light from going up and when you switch to high beam the other filament gets power (the low beam filament loses power) and the light is not shielded by the housing, filling the headlight with light allowing the light reach out farther in front of the vehicle. On the most HID bi-xenon bulbs there is only one filament and therefore to get it out from under the shrouding of the headlight housing it must move back in its location to simulate the two filament factory style bulb. That is probably the reason you can't get your bulb's anymore is it goes against the design of the headlight housing. (This all based on a factory housing designed for regular bulbs and not HID specific housings)
 
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:31 PM
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Have you considered LED as an option? They are fairly new on the market and I want to be sure you know your options I love mine. About $150 for the LifetimeLED set but you can get cheap ones on eBay for half that.



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Old 06-13-2014, 01:22 PM
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Truckee, I'm getting my info from looking at my factory bulb. Also by talking to HID suppliers. Here is a pic of a 9007 bulb. The light source moves straight up and down. If you look from the front they are offset slightly side to side, but not front to back at all. Also the HIDsi have in my truck now work WAY better than the one that move forward and back. I'm speaking from personal experience.

 
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I've had mine in for years. Remember you get what you pay for as far as quality goes. I have Retro-Solutions Bi-Xenon in 5000K and absolutely love them. Not a single problem since installing them. Has to be at least 5 years now....
 
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:32 PM
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Justin you may be right on some of the items stated but if he has the Harley edition lights they are '05 or later which uses the H13 bulb which has a front to rear filament set up and interior shielding that I described. I have the '05 headlights in mine so I know first hand how the are internally. Maybe on the 9007 the side ways moving filament may work better, I don't know, but if it was better I am sure you could still get them and you stated they are no longer available.

The kit he listed is the H13 kit for the 9007 wiring harness that is stock in our trucks. The kit is listed as a hi/low kit but in the print in the ad it says it is a low beam only kit so I would suggest not buying it. I don't know about NY but in CA you legally must have a hi and low beam.

Here is link showing the H13 bulb.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...eadlights-work
 
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Old 06-13-2014, 02:58 PM
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O crap. I could have sworn he said 9007 bulbs. I shall bow out of this conversation and apologize for any confusion i may have caused. Maybe someone with 9007s will stumble across this post sometime in the future.
 
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Don't sweat it, all information is good in some way. You brought up that it was a low beam set-up when it was listed as a hi/low set-up, nice catch.
 
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Originally Posted by A/Ox4
Have you considered LED as an option? They are fairly new on the market and I want to be sure you know your options I love mine. About $150 for the LifetimeLED set but you can get cheap ones on eBay for half that.
more info on this please
 
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG-SM

more info on this please
Lol what would you like to know? They are very similar to HIDs. Better color control, better price, longer life (generally) and about equal output.

Keep in mind the housings on these trucks suck at reflecting light. So you can only do so much lol
 
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