6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

short blocks

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-02-2014, 04:46 PM
mustang9701's Avatar
mustang9701
mustang9701 is offline
Tuned

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
short blocks

looking for short block now, perferably with lpop an front cover
any recommendations??
 
  #2  
Old 02-03-2014, 06:19 PM
mustang9701's Avatar
mustang9701
mustang9701 is offline
Tuned

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
All these views and noone can recommend a short block worth purchasing??
 
  #3  
Old 02-03-2014, 06:25 PM
Per4mance's Avatar
Per4mance
Per4mance is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Kissimmee,Fla
Posts: 4,094
Received 20 Likes on 5 Posts
You want an honest opinion? Buy a reman Ford block 2 yr warr and unlimited mileage or build it yourself
 
  #4  
Old 02-03-2014, 06:48 PM
mustang_309's Avatar
mustang_309
mustang_309 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: South Weber, Utah
Posts: 4,135
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by mustang9701
All these views and noone can recommend a short block worth purchasing??
I replied in your other thread and said ford reman is the way to go.
 
  #5  
Old 02-03-2014, 09:05 PM
Unrealo4's Avatar
Unrealo4
Unrealo4 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Eagle Mountian, Utah
Posts: 1,347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A lot of the rebuild places skimp and cut cornors. Ford is really the best way to go. Slightly more but it's money well spent!
 
  #6  
Old 02-03-2014, 09:11 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Yahiko is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 27,307
Received 542 Likes on 396 Posts
Originally Posted by Per4mance
You want an honest opinion? Buy a reman Ford block 2 yr warr and unlimited mileage or build it yourself
Ditto.
Ford reman.

Sean
 
  #7  
Old 02-03-2014, 10:17 PM
Monty Simmons's Avatar
Monty Simmons
Monty Simmons is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 436
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Asheville Engine Rebuilders - Home

A Ford Remand engine will be $15,000 installed without ARP head bolts.

An Asheville long block engine should be no more than $6,500 installed with ARP head bolts and more.

Thus, one can install 2 Asheville engines for less than one Ford remand engine.

As for short blocks, Ashville Engines Short Blocks are $2,995; I do not know what Fords cost but probably double that figure.

I know a mechanic that has installed 10 of these Asheville engines with zero failures to date. They claim to ship 10 or more more engines a month. So they should be good at it by now.



Also consider the defective 6.0 engines that routinely fail at 80,000 or less miles were NEW Ford engines at one point. Do you really believe that Ford is going to be any more competent / caring/ professional with their remand engines than they were with their NEW engines? I do not. After all, if Ford sells another defective engine that last 10 days past the warranty that is just more money in their pocket.

In contrast, the people at Ashville Engines only do Ford Diesel engines. If they were as incompetent as Ford they would have been out of business long ago.
 
  #8  
Old 02-03-2014, 10:34 PM
bismic's Avatar
bismic
bismic is online now
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 26,062
Received 2,494 Likes on 1,731 Posts
AT LEAST compare apples-to-apples ..........................

Ford Long Block - $9550
Ford Short Block - $5100

Also - it is ARP STUDS - not bolts .......

Lastly - please post some numbers behind your statement "ROUTINELY FAILING 6.0L engines at 80k miles or less".
 
  #9  
Old 02-03-2014, 10:40 PM
mustang9701's Avatar
mustang9701
mustang9701 is offline
Tuned

Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I did talk to Asheville today. Unfortunately, they are 6-9 weeks out for delivery time. I simply don't have that time.

Also believe it or not he put me on hold and tried his ford dealer in Minnesota he uses to price me a short block for quicker service. So he musnt be to worried about the ford one being a problem.
 
  #10  
Old 02-03-2014, 10:41 PM
Monty Simmons's Avatar
Monty Simmons
Monty Simmons is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 436
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by bismic
AT LEAST compare apples-to-apples ..........................

Ford Long Block - $9550
Ford Short Block - $5100

Also - it is ARP STUDS - not bolts .......

Lastly - please post some numbers behind your statement "ROUTINELY FAILING 6.0L engines at 80k miles or less".

OK,

Ashville Engine Long Block: $4,895 with $490 ARP Head STUDS;
Ford Long Block : $9,550 (Ford dealers quote $15,000 installed)

Ashville Engine Short Block: $2,995
Ford Short Block: $5,100
 
  #11  
Old 02-03-2014, 10:45 PM
bismic's Avatar
bismic
bismic is online now
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 26,062
Received 2,494 Likes on 1,731 Posts
Originally Posted by Monty Simmons
Asheville Engine Rebuilders - Home

A Ford Remand engine will be $15,000 installed without ARP head bolts.

An Asheville long block engine should be no more than $6,500 installed with ARP head bolts and more.

.
A "remaned" engine from Ford is over $12.5k. It is not the same as (it is more than) a Long Block.
 
  #12  
Old 02-03-2014, 10:46 PM
Monty Simmons's Avatar
Monty Simmons
Monty Simmons is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 436
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by mustang9701
I did talk to Asheville today. Unfortunately, they are 6-9 weeks out for delivery time. I simply don't have that time.

Also believe it or not he put me on hold and tried his ford dealer in Minnesota he uses to price me a short block for quicker service. So he musnt be to worried about the ford one being a problem.
True, Ford may very well build a good 6.0 engine.

I was simply pointing out that if one is worried about quality, to my knowledge Ashville engines has a perfect track record while Ford has a well known and often lamented track record of building 6.0 engines that fail before 80,000 miles.

Thus, if one is going to worry about quality between Ashville engines and Ford, based on past numbers, Ashville engines is the lower risk.
 
  #13  
Old 02-03-2014, 10:51 PM
Monty Simmons's Avatar
Monty Simmons
Monty Simmons is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 436
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by bismic
A "remaned" engine from Ford is over $12.5k. It is not the same as (it is more than) a Long Block.
What is the difference between the $12,500 Ford "remanded" engine and the $4, 895 "Long Block" Asheville Engine?
 
  #14  
Old 02-03-2014, 10:59 PM
bismic's Avatar
bismic
bismic is online now
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 26,062
Received 2,494 Likes on 1,731 Posts
A Remaned engine is exactly that - a complete engine. Long block essentials include engine block, heads, and internal components (crankshaft, rods, pistons, camshaft, etc.). No external parts are included like manifolds, pumps, turbo, injectors etc.

Looking at the Asheville web site, it seems to indicate that they use your original heads and resurface them. If so, they would charge a lot more if the heads were not re-usable.
 
  #15  
Old 02-03-2014, 11:03 PM
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Yahiko is offline
FTE Chapter Leader
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Spanaway
Posts: 27,307
Received 542 Likes on 396 Posts
Originally Posted by Monty Simmons
Asheville Engine Rebuilders - Home

A Ford Remand engine will be $15,000 installed without ARP head bolts.

An Asheville long block engine should be no more than $6,500 installed with ARP head bolts and more.

Thus, one can install 2 Asheville engines for less than one Ford remand engine.

As for short blocks, Ashville Engines Short Blocks are $2,995; I do not know what Fords cost but probably double that figure.

I know a mechanic that has installed 10 of these Asheville engines with zero failures to date. They claim to ship 10 or more more engines a month. So they should be good at it by now.



Also consider the defective 6.0 engines that routinely fail at 80,000 or less miles were NEW Ford engines at one point. Do you really believe that Ford is going to be any more competent / caring/ professional with their remand engines than they were with their NEW engines? I do not. After all, if Ford sells another defective engine that last 10 days past the warranty that is just more money in their pocket.

In contrast, the people at Ashville Engines only do Ford Diesel engines. If they were as incompetent as Ford they would have been out of business long ago.
Have then put in writing what is new,what is reused and to what specification it is required to meet to be reused.
As aposed to being scrapped. I am willing to bet that they let a lot more through that would not pass on a Ford
remanufactured engine.
Will the injectors be new,remanufactured,just good enough or not included?

There are very few places that I trust to remanufactured an engine and Lycoming Textron,Continental Motors are the top two
but your not going to find then in a truck. That is unless it's in a shipping crate headed to an airfield.

I would also trust a Ford remanufactured engine. As far as installation that is the easy part. Anthony has proven that time
and time again. He is getting fast at it also.

It's your money and spend it the way you feel safe with. But if you so shortcut to save money
pick carefully on what you do. Pick parts that won't cause a catastrophe failure.

AND NO I AM NOT TRYING TO **** YOU OFF. So please don't take it that way.


Sean
 


Quick Reply: short blocks



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:49 PM.