Modern dually frame swap
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#2
It can be done but it's a lot more work then fitting the newer drive train parts to the 54 frame.
The biggest issue is the newer chassis have the engine set back much farther then the 54 does. This either requires a huge firewall recess and floor mods. Or you can move the engine and transmission forward. But depending on the frame and engine then you are getting into frame/ mount modifications.
There are also a bunch of other issues to work around. frame width, shape, rear kick up, wheel base differences, track width, just to name a few.
The biggest issue is the newer chassis have the engine set back much farther then the 54 does. This either requires a huge firewall recess and floor mods. Or you can move the engine and transmission forward. But depending on the frame and engine then you are getting into frame/ mount modifications.
There are also a bunch of other issues to work around. frame width, shape, rear kick up, wheel base differences, track width, just to name a few.
#4
I've not been around a long time, but from all that i have seen frame swaps are not a popular thing.
Have you considered boxing the frame, swap under a Dana 70 or Sterling 10.25 rear (cab and chassis style for width), upgrade to a large disc brake front (Ford F2 & F3 or F-2/F-3 Front Disc Brake Conversion ) and dropping in a diesel. I've seen mentions of a 5 cyl Mercedes swap and there is also the 4 or 6BT Cummins.
Is this the look your wanting ? https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...read-abby.html
I don't mean to pop your bubble, just looking to be informative and helpful.
Oh, the axles that will fit are listed below (credit to 51dueller)
For the axle that fit the best are:
1969-1984 F-350 Chassis Cab Dana 70
1985-1996 F-350 Chassis Cab Sterling 10.25
It has to be from a chassis cab and not a pickup as the spring perches and axle is much wider.
Have you considered boxing the frame, swap under a Dana 70 or Sterling 10.25 rear (cab and chassis style for width), upgrade to a large disc brake front (Ford F2 & F3 or F-2/F-3 Front Disc Brake Conversion ) and dropping in a diesel. I've seen mentions of a 5 cyl Mercedes swap and there is also the 4 or 6BT Cummins.
Is this the look your wanting ? https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...read-abby.html
I don't mean to pop your bubble, just looking to be informative and helpful.
Oh, the axles that will fit are listed below (credit to 51dueller)
For the axle that fit the best are:
1969-1984 F-350 Chassis Cab Dana 70
1985-1996 F-350 Chassis Cab Sterling 10.25
It has to be from a chassis cab and not a pickup as the spring perches and axle is much wider.
#5
Thanks all for ur replies. I really want to use a modern drive train. The truck will be my daily driver and want to able to tow a trailer with no worries and that the reason why I want a diesel dually. I love how the truck looks on the ground but definitely I want a big truck even if it is the same...
Samsn4, that truck looks really good but I would like to stretch the bed to 8'.
What about an E350 cab chassis frame? Looks like the engine is more forward than in the F350.
Thanks again!
Samsn4, that truck looks really good but I would like to stretch the bed to 8'.
What about an E350 cab chassis frame? Looks like the engine is more forward than in the F350.
Thanks again!
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1951 Ford F350 4x2 - AmeriKen's Toys
He got the truck done and drove it around. He hasn't been on the board 5-6 years, his board name is Ameriken. He has a lot of posts with questions and answers about his build. Do a search to find them all.
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My budget is 15k and already have the f100, hope to be enough.
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#11
IMHO if that photochopped truck wasn't 1/2 as ugly it would still be FUGLY! Proportions are way out of whack, destroying everything that makes the mid fifty trucks so appealing. looks like a fugitive from a truck pull competition. Would be very expensive to accomplish, and did I mention it would be UGLY? The frame and rear suspension would be so far into the bed it would be ~ 12" deep, about as useful as a flatbed for hauling. If you want something that big, why not sell the F100 and buy a F600-900 to start with instead.
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IMHO if that photochopped truck wasn't 1/2 as ugly it would still be FUGLY! Proportions are way out of whack, destroying everything that makes the mid fifty trucks so appealing. looks like a fugitive from a truck pull competition. Would be very expensive to accomplish, and did I mention it would be UGLY? The frame and rear suspension would be so far into the bed it would be ~ 12" deep, about as useful as a flatbed for hauling. If you want something that big, why not sell the F100 and buy a F600-900 to start with instead.
#13
Really? usually the big jobs are much easier to find, a lot less expensive and typically in better shape. Gotta look in large truck wrecking yards, in the back of older trucking company parking lots in the overgrown areas, behind the barns or in the back lot on large truck farming operations, in the back alleys in commercial and industrial areas. Trucking companies seldom advertise them for sale since the resale value and demand isn't worth their time, and the mechanicals are often worn out. Guys on here that like the big jobs and keep their eyes open are hauling them home all the time for little or no money.
#15
The 1967-1979 F100/150/250 have the right frame rail width for a frame swap. The f350 might be the same, not sure. But you can always swap in a dually axle. If you go with a flatbed and a 4wd you eliminate some of the extra work/problems in this swap.... http://www.fatfenderedtrucks.com/frameswap01.html