F150 Mustang
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F150 Mustang
So, my coworker has been badgering me about why don't I do what I want with my truck because I don't have house payments and such. So doing it now would be best. I agree.
I have many questions about how to go about making my truck faster. I want like the title says, a Mustang F150.
Since I already have a 5.0, would be easy to bolt on parts? Obviously at this age, alot of engine rebuilding will need to be done. but after that...
Looking online shows that the 93 mustang cobra engine had 235HP.
What do they mean by "Specially programmed EEC-IV and Special type exhaust manifolds?"
Now, the obvious question will be "ChristopherN, why don't you buy a Mustang?" Because, a fast step side F150 is way more badass than just another Mustang, that and I am a bit crazy.
EDIT
Also, I'm not sure transmission wise. would the 5 speed be a better choice or keep the AOD (Since it was rebuilt recently) and beef it up if needed?
I have many questions about how to go about making my truck faster. I want like the title says, a Mustang F150.
Since I already have a 5.0, would be easy to bolt on parts? Obviously at this age, alot of engine rebuilding will need to be done. but after that...
Looking online shows that the 93 mustang cobra engine had 235HP.
- Same cast pistons as 5.0 H.O.
- Cast iron GT-40 heads
- Shorter duration, higher lift camshaft
- 1.7:1 ratio roller rocker arms
- Cast aluminum GT-40 style intake
- 65 mm throttle body, 24 lbs-hr injectors, 70mm mass air meter
- Special type exhaust manifolds
- Specially programmed EEC-IV
What do they mean by "Specially programmed EEC-IV and Special type exhaust manifolds?"
Now, the obvious question will be "ChristopherN, why don't you buy a Mustang?" Because, a fast step side F150 is way more badass than just another Mustang, that and I am a bit crazy.
EDIT
Also, I'm not sure transmission wise. would the 5 speed be a better choice or keep the AOD (Since it was rebuilt recently) and beef it up if needed?
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First thing i would do is ditch the 302 idea and go find a 5.8 roller block. Then find a good stroker kit and some aluminum heads. the 302 is great in a 3000# Mustang, not so good in a 5000# truck. Some will even tell you to skip the 5.8 and build a 460 for it.
Once you are done with the motor build start looking for everything to do A SD to MAF conversion.
Now your ready to make some killer HP and TQ.
There is no replacement for Displacement
Matt
Once you are done with the motor build start looking for everything to do A SD to MAF conversion.
Now your ready to make some killer HP and TQ.
There is no replacement for Displacement
Matt
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If you are set on keeping the 302 block then stroke and poke it to 347. 302 makes the power on the top end. If you regear to 4.10 or 4.56 you can keep the RPMs high enough to keep the 302 happy. Plus the advantage of finding a 531 block to build, you don't need to take the truck out of service until the emgine build is done and then it is only for a weekend..
What transmission are you running?
Matt
What transmission are you running?
Matt
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Being that its an aod trans, I'd start by converting it to mass air using a mustang computer. That way it's well supported for when you need it tuned.
Then
You should upgrade to a 5.8 It's all bolt in stuff. It will only cost a little extra due to needing to buy the block. It uses all the same heads and cams. While it uses a different intake, it's the same cost as an aftermarket 5liter intake.
Headers with 3" single exhaust (2.5 from headers into dual cats into dual inlet single outlet muffler 3" tailpipe)
Edelbrock intake (or typhoon) for mustang
Alum heads of your choice
Roller rockers
Roller cam
373 min gears (410 or 456 depending on how much you drive)
30lb injectors
GET IT TUNED
Then it will rip
Then
You should upgrade to a 5.8 It's all bolt in stuff. It will only cost a little extra due to needing to buy the block. It uses all the same heads and cams. While it uses a different intake, it's the same cost as an aftermarket 5liter intake.
Headers with 3" single exhaust (2.5 from headers into dual cats into dual inlet single outlet muffler 3" tailpipe)
Edelbrock intake (or typhoon) for mustang
Alum heads of your choice
Roller rockers
Roller cam
373 min gears (410 or 456 depending on how much you drive)
30lb injectors
GET IT TUNED
Then it will rip
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If you are set on keeping the 302 block then stroke and poke it to 347. 302 makes the power on the top end. If you regear to 4.10 or 4.56 you can keep the RPMs high enough to keep the 302 happy. Plus the advantage of finding a 531 block to build, you don't need to take the truck out of service until the emgine build is done and then it is only for a weekend..
What transmission are you running?
Matt
What transmission are you running?
Matt
A 347 build with a custom cam by Jay Allen would be a screamer. I am not sure if his business, Camshaft Innovations, is still in business but if it is I am sure he can recommend a few pieces. Jay's personal pet project 347 build made 600+ HP with a wide torque curve. Of course this was a carb. build for simplicity. But it did demonstrate you can make a ton of power with the proper cam and intake.
Forgot about factory E7 heads or GT40s, start budgeting for AFRs or Trickflows. The factory 5.0 intake is pretty decent, add in some aftermarket heads, headers and one of Jay's cam I bet the OP could stay Speed Density with a custom tune, and still have a beast that would put a GEN 1 Lightning to shame. Even Conanksi has some suggestions for making an honest 300+ HP at the crank with some easy upgrades with a 5.0L engine.
Lew52 has a nice little hot rod with MAF and a mild build/tune, I bet he would have some input. There are plenty of options for a nice 5.0L build, but like anything else it takes money. Gears are your friend regardless of how you want to build your hot rod if you are determined to start with a 5.0L engine.
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If you can bear to have your truck torn apart for an extended period, a 347 is the way to go as long as you already have a 302 in it. If you need to be able to drive the truck all the time, a 351w stroked out to a 393w would be killer.
A 347 is going to make a ton of power compared to the 302, and with a real low gear ratio (4.10, 4.56) you can keep it in the powerband easily. My uncle has a foxbody mustang with a 347w in it. 370hp, 410ft/lbs of torque. It can burn rubber doing 60 in 4th gear on a 5 speed. It's pretty nuts. But I think you'd be plenty satisfied with any number close to that (or bigger!).
A 393w would always eat the 347 though. Like norfolknova said, there's no replacement for displacement. And thats as true as it gets. But I think the 393 would offer enough benefit to you that you should think about it. You don't have to have your truck ripped apart for an extended period because you can build a new motor. It'll have far more power than the 347. And it won't be that much more expensive to build. And you can always sell your current 302 to regain some of the money you spend on the 393.
I'd put a zf 5 speed behind either motor though, both because I prefer a manual transmission, and I don't think an AOD is going to like the punishment.
A 347 is going to make a ton of power compared to the 302, and with a real low gear ratio (4.10, 4.56) you can keep it in the powerband easily. My uncle has a foxbody mustang with a 347w in it. 370hp, 410ft/lbs of torque. It can burn rubber doing 60 in 4th gear on a 5 speed. It's pretty nuts. But I think you'd be plenty satisfied with any number close to that (or bigger!).
A 393w would always eat the 347 though. Like norfolknova said, there's no replacement for displacement. And thats as true as it gets. But I think the 393 would offer enough benefit to you that you should think about it. You don't have to have your truck ripped apart for an extended period because you can build a new motor. It'll have far more power than the 347. And it won't be that much more expensive to build. And you can always sell your current 302 to regain some of the money you spend on the 393.
I'd put a zf 5 speed behind either motor though, both because I prefer a manual transmission, and I don't think an AOD is going to like the punishment.
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