Need some help figuring out what i've got
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This really only helps you narrow down, not a definitive but it starts the process so here goes.
I've not seen that motor specifically yet.
I scoured all your threads for pix to get as much of a feel for it as possible.
You got it right that it is not original, original was a 226 flathead.
It am pretty sure it is not a 300 (or I think any other 4th generation like the 240).
240 and 300 both have the dizzy on the other side.
I am very sure it is not a 5th generation or newer.
The 262 (2nd generation) looks very similar, dizzy on the pass side, 1 barrel carb, etc. but it is beefier. I don't think you have a 262 by the size.
I'm guessing a 215, or 223 (other 2nd generation).
The 3rd generation (144,170,200,250) might be a possibility - not much experience with those. I did notice the 170 has the dizzy on the wrong side so I am guessing not.
Since the 215 & 223 are completely On Topic here I bet someone will get you a yeah nay answer on those.
Based on the trans brake I am really leaning to a 223 pulled from a ~ '54 heavy duty truck complete with matching trans.
I've not seen that motor specifically yet.
I scoured all your threads for pix to get as much of a feel for it as possible.
You got it right that it is not original, original was a 226 flathead.
It am pretty sure it is not a 300 (or I think any other 4th generation like the 240).
240 and 300 both have the dizzy on the other side.
I am very sure it is not a 5th generation or newer.
The 262 (2nd generation) looks very similar, dizzy on the pass side, 1 barrel carb, etc. but it is beefier. I don't think you have a 262 by the size.
I'm guessing a 215, or 223 (other 2nd generation).
The 3rd generation (144,170,200,250) might be a possibility - not much experience with those. I did notice the 170 has the dizzy on the wrong side so I am guessing not.
Since the 215 & 223 are completely On Topic here I bet someone will get you a yeah nay answer on those.
Based on the trans brake I am really leaning to a 223 pulled from a ~ '54 heavy duty truck complete with matching trans.
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It's 1954+ (I think to the early 60s) 223. Iginition and mechanical parts are available at your local NAPA store or through the majority of the repro parts vendors. I got my igintion and mechanical parts for the 215 (essentially the same engine) in the 52 Panel from Mac's Antique Auto Parts.
1952 and 1953 215s have the distributor and oil filter in the center of the engine block on the right side and the fuel pump towards the front of the engine block on the same side (ahead of the oil filter).
It doesn't appear to be a 262 because the valve cover was affixed with more bolts (4-8, don't remember exact amount) to the head.
The carburetor also doesn't appear to be correct. Should have a Holley 1904.
1952 and 1953 215s have the distributor and oil filter in the center of the engine block on the right side and the fuel pump towards the front of the engine block on the same side (ahead of the oil filter).
It doesn't appear to be a 262 because the valve cover was affixed with more bolts (4-8, don't remember exact amount) to the head.
The carburetor also doesn't appear to be correct. Should have a Holley 1904.
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Its a 223, Inline 6. You can tell its a 223 and not the earlier 215 due to the location of the distributor. The original carb setup on the 223 was a Holley 1904. Not sure of the tranny but it appears to be a T-98. Great motor with a lot of low end.
Here is mine from my F250 1954
Here is the Holley 1904, note the glass sight bowl (the air cleaner assembly is not stock, the stock was an oil bath):
The later 223 has changed the location of the hold down nuts. The early 223 has two nuts holding on the top of the valve cover and the later ones had a series of perimeter bolts (top one in the photo)
Here is mine from my F250 1954
Here is the Holley 1904, note the glass sight bowl (the air cleaner assembly is not stock, the stock was an oil bath):
The later 223 has changed the location of the hold down nuts. The early 223 has two nuts holding on the top of the valve cover and the later ones had a series of perimeter bolts (top one in the photo)
#7
Thanks Petey. That truck has been finished since June, 2011, just haven't taken the time to put all the photos online.
Yeah I noticed that backwards cover. I wonder if they had some leakage issues? I was really impressed with the 223 that came with my truck. I had always had 302, 351C and Ws and 350 SBC before. This little 223 makes smile with pride when she fires and rumbles along. She'll never be a high output motor or speed demon but she is simple and something different on the road. The sound from her causes people to turn there heads. I am glad I kept her and would encourage Wineguy to either restore his 223 or make sure it goes to a new home that will.
Yeah I noticed that backwards cover. I wonder if they had some leakage issues? I was really impressed with the 223 that came with my truck. I had always had 302, 351C and Ws and 350 SBC before. This little 223 makes smile with pride when she fires and rumbles along. She'll never be a high output motor or speed demon but she is simple and something different on the road. The sound from her causes people to turn there heads. I am glad I kept her and would encourage Wineguy to either restore his 223 or make sure it goes to a new home that will.
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This is what a T-98 looks like. It's not really a crash-box....it has a non-synchro 1st & reverse gear. 2nd through 4th are synchomeshed. Normally when you drive you don't use 1st gear unless you're starting out up a boat ramp or some other heavy load. You can shift from 1st to 2nd on the fly, but you pretty much have to stop to get it back into 1st.
I think the T-98 came along in 1955 or so, and was used up to around 1972.
Dan
I think the T-98 came along in 1955 or so, and was used up to around 1972.
Dan
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This is correct. The mounting ears are facing backward making it a shorter transmission, likely the T8-D crashbox 4sp. The T98, being longer, though mounting to the same crossmember, had the mounting ears facing back towards the tranny.
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This is what a T-98 looks like. It's not really a crash-box....it has a non-synchro 1st & reverse gear. 2nd through 4th are synchomeshed. Normally when you drive you don't use 1st gear unless you're starting out up a boat ramp or some other heavy load. You can shift from 1st to 2nd on the fly, but you pretty much have to stop to get it back into 1st.
I think the T-98 came along in 1955 or so, and was used up to around 1972.
Dan
I think the T-98 came along in 1955 or so, and was used up to around 1972.
Dan
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The T98 was available earlier, around 1950, mostly found behind the big 254 flathead 6 in the larger trucks. I believe we determined the op's truck was originally equipped with the v8. It also appears (to my untrained eye, at least) it's the original trans with an adapter bell to fit the newer engine to the older trans. That would make it a crashbox trans along the lines of a T59(?) or similar.
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