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Old 09-14-2011, 12:03 PM
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Any details of what Sept 1 and Jan 1 entail?

I just took my '10 in for smog inspection about 2wks ago here in CA. It took 2 guys 5 minutes hunched over my engine bay looking for the EGR right there on top. They just took a quick glance from the side of the truck for my DPF, jabbed the throttle 3 times looking for smoke and then charged me $35 for the test. Aside from that, the whole ordeal was a joke and a scam if you asked me.
 
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WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH WAS A SMOG TEST. They are now doing what is called an opacity test. All the info you need is on the ca arb website.
 
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I think you meant to say NOT a smog test.

Other then an opacity test and an inspection of all emissions components, they should have also hooked up to the OBD port but he didn't say.
 
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Smog test and opacity test are completely different tests. It is ILLEGAL in the state of CA to remove / delete a DPF system. Fines as of Jan. 1st, 2012 will be $10,000.00 Just an fyi. Again all of this is on the arb website for CA.
 
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The dude threw his OBD cable into the truck through the passenger side, but he never hooked it up. I was sure of that since I watched. Maybe he did that out of habit. It was purely a visual inspection and nothing else.

I'd say the smoke test was purely subjective too. He simply looked out the passenger side mirror. Depending on the background he may not see anything at all even if it did smoke a tad.
 
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They are supposed to hook up the OBD and see if there are any code errors. If he didn't then he was being lazy or just in a hurry. The smoke test is very subjective and totally up to the tester. The outcome of the test could be decided based on how windy it is that day.

Total BS, but that's what we are stuck with.

In any case, I think the system just has a Pass or Fail button to submit to DMV.
 
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Originally Posted by kmtc4
Smog test and opacity test are completely different tests. It is ILLEGAL in the state of CA to remove / delete a DPF system. Fines as of Jan. 1st, 2012 will be $10,000.00 Just an fyi. Again all of this is on the arb website for CA.
You know, I will be honest here. I do not think that I am going to put the CAT/DPF delete on and risk a huge fine. I may just use the Spartan (if I get it) with the DPF on and sell the off road pipes. I know it defeats the purpose of the major benefits of the tuner and engine health, but I have to weigh my options. I HATE CALIFORNIA!
 
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I think your making a wise decision. The truck will perform just fin (minus the fuel mileage). But the on and only thing everyone on here agrees to that is key to the life of these trucks is maintenance! Take care of it and it will take care of you.
 
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Originally Posted by kmtc4
I think your making a wise decision. The truck will perform just fin (minus the fuel mileage). But the on and only thing everyone on here agrees to that is key to the life of these trucks is maintenance! Take care of it and it will take care of you.
I hear ya...I do my maintenance religiously so that is not an issue here. I received my Spartan tuner today. I have decided to sell the Cat/DPF delete pipes since I do not think that I can return them. I will keep the tuner and run them with the DPF on settings. A little more safer than getting fined. Thanks all for the help and advice.

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so they decided to ship it to you in CA after all???
 
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so they decided to ship it to you in CA after all???
Yes, not sure what the purpose of that E-mail was though. Kind of confusing if you ask me! I am a little upset that I cant use the pipes. I loaded the 150HP DPF on tune and it is a night and day difference. The tranny shifts a little rough though. I am sure it has to relearn.
 
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Originally Posted by kmtc4
Smog test and opacity test are completely different tests. It is ILLEGAL in the state of CA to remove / delete a DPF system. Fines as of Jan. 1st, 2012 will be $10,000.00 Just an fyi. Again all of this is on the arb website for CA.
$10,000?! WTF

How can they get away with this? I mean what the hell why not make it $100,000, who's gonna stop them?
 
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