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Old 02-18-2011, 07:43 PM
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Newbie questions on draining transmisson on F-550

Hello, I have never drained my own transmission before and I am attempting to do so on my 2001 Ford F-550 with a 4r100 tranny.

I drained it already but ran out of daylight and I am wondering whether it will be fine without any ATF in it overnight. It's parked and isn't going anywhere. I made sure to seal it back up by putting the tranny pan oil drain plug back in and the torque converter drain plug back in as well. I am just wondering if it's bad for it to sit without any fluid in it at all?

Also, when I went to put the torque converter drain plug back in and I made sure to start it off with my fingers so as not to cross thread it but after getting it hand tight I began using the ratchet to tighten it down all the way, oddly the drain bolt only wants to go in about half way. This is scary as I am unsure whether I might have cross threaded the bolt. I backed it out and looked at the bolt closely and it does not appear to be cross threaded. Shouldn't the bolt be flush with the torque converter? When I loosened it I don't remember it being bolted in only half way. I'm scared to keep forcing it in because I don't want to crack the torque converter/housing. Can someone please advise me on what I am doing wrong? Or does the torque converter drain bolt only thread in half way? Any help would be enormously appreciated. Thanks
 
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Yup, you'll be fine for overnight. Everything is aluminum for the most part, and will have a coating of fluid to prevent rusting anyway. The bolt should be slightly tapered to make a good seal, and therefore will not go in all the way flush. If it goes in a good couple of rotations by finger you will know it is not cross threaded.
 
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As stated, letting it sit will be fine.

If you're trying to flush the ATF, here is the DIY procedure. Changing ATF Fluid in a E4OD and 4R100 transmission .: Articles

Works much better than just pulling the plugs and draining. You can even skip the plug on the torque converter next time.
 
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Originally Posted by TennesseeMustangPerf
Yup, you'll be fine for overnight. Everything is aluminum for the most part, and will have a coating of fluid to prevent rusting anyway. The bolt should be slightly tapered to make a good seal, and therefore will not go in all the way flush. If it goes in a good couple of rotations by finger you will know it is not cross threaded.
Thank you for the reply TennesseeMustangPerf it's much appreciated.
 
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Any time, my friend. Glad to help!
 
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[QUOTE=Oppland;9987496]I am just wondering if it's bad for it to sit without any fluid in it at all? [quote]
Won't hurt it at all.

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oddly the drain bolt only wants to go in about half way.
The thread is a tapered pipe thread. The further you go into the hole the smaller the diameter. So the plug can only go part way in. That's how a tapered thread works.

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Everything is aluminum for the most part,
There is A LOT of steel in there! All of the gears are steel, all of the shafts, drums, shells, clutch separator plates, solenoids, etc. Leaving it overnight is fine.
 
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[quote=Mark Kovalsky;9988466][quote=Oppland;9987496]I am just wondering if it's bad for it to sit without any fluid in it at all?
Won't hurt it at all.


The thread is a tapered pipe thread. The further you go into the hole the smaller the diameter. So the plug can only go part way in. That's how a tapered thread works.


There is A LOT of steel in there! All of the gears are steel, all of the shafts, drums, shells, clutch separator plates, solenoids, etc. Leaving it overnight is fine.
Thanks Mark, I am not super mechanically inclined but I am trying my best learn. I will remember this about tapered bolts in the future. I've heard nightmare stories of people being ham-handed and "forcing" bolts only to end up with a broken bolt or worse. That's why I stopped tightening it, I didn't know that it was tapered, just that it had it's own ideas about how far it wanted to go in. Now I know that it was saying: "I'm a tapered bolt stupid!, I don't go in all the way."
 
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[quote=Mark Kovalsky;9988466][quote=Oppland;9987496]I am just wondering if it's bad for it to sit without any fluid in it at all?
Won't hurt it at all.


The thread is a tapered pipe thread. The further you go into the hole the smaller the diameter. So the plug can only go part way in. That's how a tapered thread works.


There is A LOT of steel in there! All of the gears are steel, all of the shafts, drums, shells, clutch separator plates, solenoids, etc. Leaving it overnight is fine.
Thanks Mark, I am not super mechanically inclined but I am trying my best learn. I will remember this about tapered bolts in the future. I've heard nightmare stories of people being ham-handed and "forcing" bolts only to end up with a broken bolt or worse. That's why I stopped tightening it, I didn't know that it was tapered, just that it had it's own ideas about how far it wanted to go in. Now I know that it was saying: "I'm a tapered bolt stupid!, I don't go in all the way."
 
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