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Another Crank no start -- sorry

I am at my wits end, hoping some powerstroke guru's can point me the right direction.

I was driving my with the truck underload, towing a 4500# trailer. I experience a loss of power then a total shut down, time from loss of power to shut down was a couple of seconds. It felt remotely like it was in low fuel/limp mode before the shut down.
Injectors buzz with key on. No white smoke from exhaust

Engine codes are:
P0113
P0472
P0671
P0672
P2285

The P0113 and P0472 weren't present when I first scanned with my SCT scanner. I have since upgraded to a forscan reader so not sure if they were always there. Oddly, when I clear the codes and unplug the EBP the codes do not reappear. When I plug it back in.... codes come back. the P0113 I think is due to a faulty MAFF sensor and its been that way for a while.

I've unplugged the ICP with no change.
Fuel filters were dirty and have been replaced.
Truck is running Rotella T4 and has acceptable oil level. Less than 5000Km since last change. Fuel is at 1/2 tank.

Diagnostic PIDS from forscan below. The low RPM I know is an issue and I think its been that way for a while. I will be replacing the starter, but it wouldn't explain the shut down while driving.

I have previously replaced the IPR, probably 20,000 miles ago.

***EDIT**** fuel pressure reading at 48PSI


Key on engine off
Key on engine off



cranking
cranking
 

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For starters it’s cranking to slow rpm need 150rpm crank minimum also battery voltage low



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did you try cranking with the ICP unpluged???? It set a code p2285 but your value looks ok
 

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I did crank with the ICP unplugged, I have cleared the codes since doing that
 
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the 2285 code has been consistent since the truck shut down
 
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Unplug the ICP and try to start with ICP unllugged

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missed you tried ICP unplugged

what year truck


 

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2005 Excursion. I've unplugged the ICP, makes no difference
 
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Originally Posted by gsteves
I did crank with the ICP unplugged, I have cleared the codes since doing that
Was P2285 there prior to unplugging ICP Sensor do you remember

this code is problematic and can be hard to clear sometimes needs to complete drive cycle to clear


 

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P0472 could be your next likely culprit

short or open circuit possible bad egr valve

what have you tried with egr code

 

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I believe it was there right away. I think theP0472 is new since I started tinkering with it.
 
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EGR is deleted
 
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I unplugged the EBP, no change though it did not trigger the code when unplugged. I am going to let the batteries charge over night and do some more digging tomorrow.
 
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Was there any oil blown thru ICP

If p2285 set on its own then it likely needs a new ICP sensor
It’s baseline value just a touch off from dealer spec but not much could be a factor

if p2285 is set from troubleshooting then ICP likely ok

It’s a problematic code chain of events plays here because it’s hard to reset this DTC it usually needs a drive cycle to completely clear
 

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P0472 is an electrical code ONLY. It could be the EBP sensor OR the wiring to/from the sensor. Also, it could be an issue with the "signal return" circuit (which is ACTUALLY the sensor ground circuit to the PCM) that is shared with several other circuits and sensors. It is a lessor likelihood that the EBP sensor signal circuit itself is bad. It could even be an issue with the v-reference circuit - which could be caused by issues at the EBP sensor or possibly another sensor on that circuit. The EBP sensor v-reference circuit also supplies the EGR valve and the ICP sensor (Brown wire with White stripe). The signal return circuit is a Gray wire with Red stripe and is common to the same three electronic components (also to the EOT, ECT, MAP, IAT2, MAF, and less likely the APP sensors).
Fan clutch also might cause issues with PCM grounding, maybe even the IPR as well.

Seemingly unrelated to an EBP code, the following issues can set a P0472:
Fan clutch (internal wiring) short
ICP sensor short
MAP sensor short
EGR valve actuator short
Baro short
This has to do with EITHER shared v-reference circuit, or the shared "Signal Return" (PCM ground) circuit
 
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P0113 (Common to have this code if the MAF is disconnected with the key on).
IAT1 wiring are the outer two wires (one on each side) on the MAF connector.
IAT1 sensor output above expected sensor range:
Faulty Intake Air Temperature (IAT1) Sensor
IAT1 Sensor harness is open or shorted
IAT1 Sensor circuit poor electrical connection
Dirty Air Filter
Faulty Powertrain Control Module (PCM)
This can cause transmission performance issues
-40 *F is the typical default on a wiring failure when the v-reference shorts to the signal circuit. Also, a completely "OPEN" circuit will read -40*F (confirmed this).
 
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P2285 - ICP Sensor - Circuit Low. Visually inspect the ICP sensor harness and connector for damage, corrosion, or incorrect routing. This is what you get when you disconnect the ICP, which can mislead you in troubleshooting.
 
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