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Passenger side rocker chatter

I have noticeable valve train chatter - not clatter or ticking - on the passenger side when the engine heats up.

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If you’ve ever listened to a cylinder head (using a wood dowel or stethoscope), that’s the sound - just louder. I can hear it in the cab at idle. It’s not a tick or sharp clatter. Just a smooth recurring flow of rockers and springs - but noticeably louder than drivers side bank.

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I built the 400 for my 77 F100 about two years back. It was my first time assembling an engine. It’s just a slight upgrade with a Erson cam 214/214) and stock heads. Valve job completed; Top end is all stock except for Erson springs match to the cam. Pushrods are stock. Bought the long block so no prior experience with it.

I’ve already checked the rocker bolt torque. All set at 22 ft-lbs. My initial thoughts are worn rockers that may need replacement.
 
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Did you check the lifter preload when you put it together?

You were having oil pressure issues as I recall, that could let the lifters down and cause slack.
 
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The oil pressure was definitely a thought. The mechanical gauge has 40 to 70 psi and I still hear the chatter. So I think the oil valve train chatter is incidental to the oil pressure.

As for preload, these are pedestal mount rockers. No preload. So the answer to your question is no. 100% possible I missed the step or put Warren parts back into the cylinder heads.
 
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Hydraulic lifters always have preload. in your case it's by pushrod length.
 
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I have noticeable valve train chatter - not clatter or ticking - on the passenger side when the engine heats up.

About the noise
If you’ve ever listened to a cylinder head (using a wood dowel or stethoscope), that’s the sound - just louder. I can hear it in the cab at idle. It’s not a tick or sharp clatter. Just a smooth recurring flow of rockers and springs - but noticeably louder than drivers side bank.
Could possibly be the push rods are short or a thick head gasket or if someone took too much off the top of the valves dressing the stem, or maybe worn rockers. On this engine, as you say no adjusting, put it together with lifters empty, just lubed and then they grab a bit of oil each time they seat on the cam base, just a little, until they eventually get enough to be full sitting on the base. They get pushed up past the window before oil can escape, and open the valve (unless the lifter bores are so worn they can't fully open the valve because they leak down some). I can hear my engine running, but no loud clicking, etc .... like just mechanical noise. They can over pump if the valves float at high rpms if there is enough travel in the lifter internally, but that's something too that will often as not self correct with time.

I guess you are for sure is no slight exhaust leak that self heals when a manifold gets hot and expands, etc? I mention because my passenger side exhaust manifold to head pipe joint does that, and it's right there at the firewall. Cold weather seems to bring it out until the exhaust build heat. I've wrapped the joint with exhaust putty tape and wire. Once hot, it's quiet.
 

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