P0402 a few drive cycles after replacing busted aftermarket intercooler charge pipe with stock part
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P0402 a few drive cycles after replacing busted aftermarket intercooler charge pipe with stock part
Hello everyone. I'll start by saying I am new to this forum so let me know if there is a better spot to put this question.
I recently purchased a 2019 F250 6.7L Powerstroke with 117k miles. The previous owner had installed an aftermarket intercooler charge pipe. I don't know the reason but I'm assuming the stock part failed. Well that aftermarket pipe failed on me which led to the CEL turning on on and the code P00BD. I then replaced the busted aftermarket charge pipe with a stock charge pipe. A few drive cycles later I am now getting error code P0402 (Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Excessive Detected). It seems too coincidental that this error code occurred so soon after replacing the charge pipe. Is there any chance that these can be related? Maybe the aftermarket part had a bad seal even before busting and the sensors were retrained based on the airflow temp associated with that part? Now the sensors are confused about the new part?
I appreciate any thoughts.
I recently purchased a 2019 F250 6.7L Powerstroke with 117k miles. The previous owner had installed an aftermarket intercooler charge pipe. I don't know the reason but I'm assuming the stock part failed. Well that aftermarket pipe failed on me which led to the CEL turning on on and the code P00BD. I then replaced the busted aftermarket charge pipe with a stock charge pipe. A few drive cycles later I am now getting error code P0402 (Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Excessive Detected). It seems too coincidental that this error code occurred so soon after replacing the charge pipe. Is there any chance that these can be related? Maybe the aftermarket part had a bad seal even before busting and the sensors were retrained based on the airflow temp associated with that part? Now the sensors are confused about the new part?
I appreciate any thoughts.
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Same issue
I just had the P00BD code and found the Intercooler pipe had cracks in it. I replaced the hose with a stock hose and cleared the codes and immediately got the P0402 code as well. Did you figure out the problem? My truck Ahmad an aftermarket warranty but I’m not sure if that’s covered or not. I was going to call the dealership today to check but I was curious what you found. Seems odd that the code wasn’t there when the hose was cracked but as soon as it was replaced it threw the code.
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Same problem here. Replaced intercooler cold side pipe due to cracks now getting EGR error check engine light. It is defiantly defueling after a minute or two of running it. Turn the engine off and it runs normally but eventually defuels again. Some have said clean MAF and others have said not help. It seems odd that replacing the pipe created this error. Is it learning the new intake volume?
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I just had the P00BD code and found the Intercooler pipe had cracks in it. I replaced the hose with a stock hose and cleared the codes and immediately got the P0402 code as well. Did you figure out the problem? My truck Ahmad an aftermarket warranty but I’m not sure if that’s covered or not. I was going to call the dealership today to check but I was curious what you found. Seems odd that the code wasn’t there when the hose was cracked but as soon as it was replaced it threw the code.
Same problem here. Replaced intercooler cold side pipe due to cracks now getting EGR error check engine light. It is defiantly defueling after a minute or two of running it. Turn the engine off and it runs normally but eventually defuels again. Some have said clean MAF and others have said not help. It seems odd that replacing the pipe created this error. Is it learning the new intake volume?
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Hello everyone. I'll start by saying I am new to this forum so let me know if there is a better spot to put this question.
I recently purchased a 2019 F250 6.7L Powerstroke with 117k miles. The previous owner had installed an aftermarket intercooler charge pipe. I don't know the reason but I'm assuming the stock part failed. Well that aftermarket pipe failed on me which led to the CEL turning on on and the code P00BD. I then replaced the busted aftermarket charge pipe with a stock charge pipe. A few drive cycles later I am now getting error code P0402 (Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Excessive Detected). It seems too coincidental that this error code occurred so soon after replacing the charge pipe. Is there any chance that these can be related? Maybe the aftermarket part had a bad seal even before busting and the sensors were retrained based on the airflow temp associated with that part? Now the sensors are confused about the new part?
I appreciate any thoughts.
I recently purchased a 2019 F250 6.7L Powerstroke with 117k miles. The previous owner had installed an aftermarket intercooler charge pipe. I don't know the reason but I'm assuming the stock part failed. Well that aftermarket pipe failed on me which led to the CEL turning on on and the code P00BD. I then replaced the busted aftermarket charge pipe with a stock charge pipe. A few drive cycles later I am now getting error code P0402 (Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Excessive Detected). It seems too coincidental that this error code occurred so soon after replacing the charge pipe. Is there any chance that these can be related? Maybe the aftermarket part had a bad seal even before busting and the sensors were retrained based on the airflow temp associated with that part? Now the sensors are confused about the new part?
I appreciate any thoughts.
Found some threads for you to ponder....
https://www.forddoctorsdts.com/forum...d-p0402-cause/
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...60813-0001.pdf
https://www.powerstroke.org/threads/...p0402.1377778/
Not an expert here but hopefully this will give some guidance. If I come across anything else, I'll post up...
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Hello everyone. I'll start by saying I am new to this forum so let me know if there is a better spot to put this question.
I recently purchased a 2019 F250 6.7L Powerstroke with 117k miles. The previous owner had installed an aftermarket intercooler charge pipe. I don't know the reason but I'm assuming the stock part failed. Well that aftermarket pipe failed on me which led to the CEL turning on on and the code P00BD. I then replaced the busted aftermarket charge pipe with a stock charge pipe. A few drive cycles later I am now getting error code P0402 (Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Excessive Detected). It seems too coincidental that this error code occurred so soon after replacing the charge pipe. Is there any chance that these can be related? Maybe the aftermarket part had a bad seal even before busting and the sensors were retrained based on the airflow temp associated with that part? Now the sensors are confused about the new part?
I appreciate any thoughts.
I recently purchased a 2019 F250 6.7L Powerstroke with 117k miles. The previous owner had installed an aftermarket intercooler charge pipe. I don't know the reason but I'm assuming the stock part failed. Well that aftermarket pipe failed on me which led to the CEL turning on on and the code P00BD. I then replaced the busted aftermarket charge pipe with a stock charge pipe. A few drive cycles later I am now getting error code P0402 (Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Excessive Detected). It seems too coincidental that this error code occurred so soon after replacing the charge pipe. Is there any chance that these can be related? Maybe the aftermarket part had a bad seal even before busting and the sensors were retrained based on the airflow temp associated with that part? Now the sensors are confused about the new part?
I appreciate any thoughts.
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These codes are perment codes…meaning…clearing with a scan tool or software won’t clear them. You have to drive the vehicle to clear them. If you just try to clear them…they will still show as pending codes until the pcm clears them.
no one is posting the fix becuase these codes once the root case is repaired will clear them selves.
The folks with the codes that relate to excessive egr flow need to check their secondary coolant mix with a hydrometer.
no one is posting the fix becuase these codes once the root case is repaired will clear them selves.
The folks with the codes that relate to excessive egr flow need to check their secondary coolant mix with a hydrometer.
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These codes are perment codes…meaning…clearing with a scan tool or software won’t clear them. You have to drive the vehicle to clear them. If you just try to clear them…they will still show as pending codes until the pcm clears them.
no one is posting the fix becuase these codes once the root case is repaired will clear them selves.
The folks with the codes that relate to excessive egr flow need to check their secondary coolant mix with a hydrometer.
no one is posting the fix becuase these codes once the root case is repaired will clear them selves.
The folks with the codes that relate to excessive egr flow need to check their secondary coolant mix with a hydrometer.
a side note I do see my boost under wot goes up/down like it’s hunting/overboosting until it gets to 4th maybe and steadies. Almost like the waste gate is sticking or slow.
why a hydrometer for flow of egr? Trucks got 80k miles
All I’ve changed is map and charge pipe.
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my tool clears pending codes and reads pending codes. The pending code will come back after 100 miles. Specifically under low rpm high boost in 6th gear up grades.
a side note I do see my boost under wot goes up/down like it’s hunting/overboosting until it gets to 4th maybe and steadies. Almost like the waste gate is sticking or slow.
why a hydrometer for flow of egr? Trucks got 80k miles
All I’ve changed is map and charge pipe.
a side note I do see my boost under wot goes up/down like it’s hunting/overboosting until it gets to 4th maybe and steadies. Almost like the waste gate is sticking or slow.
why a hydrometer for flow of egr? Trucks got 80k miles
All I’ve changed is map and charge pipe.
the reason to check your egr coolant is because the cap is only 5 psi, over time, water will steam out of the resivor.
I used to think forscan and idash could clear permeant codes…but after clearing them with forscan or idash, I put odbclink on the engine and saw the codes still listed. The software help in odbclink says only the pcm will clear a perm code if the condition is corrected.
but you bring up a good point….why are all these hoses cracking … and why are hoses involved in cracks having code problems. I like the watergate theory…stuck closed wastegate will over pressurize the tubes …would they crack…why would the wastegates on 17 thru 19’s get stuck…is this why ford changed the design of the ccv again…are all these 27 thru 19 turbo replacements just stuck watergates in disguise? I don’t have the answer nor any way to test the wastegate.
i can tell you if the wastegate is stuck open…excessive egr flow will go thru the egr simply due to suction. The mass air flow sensor expects a predictable flow drop as the valve opens.
but it is curious how the folks who report this problem never come back to explain how it was resolved.
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the reason to check your egr coolant is because the cap is only 5 psi, over time, water will steam out of the resivor.
I used to think forscan and idash could clear permeant codes…but after clearing them with forscan or idash, I put odbclink on the engine and saw the codes still listed. The software help in odbclink says only the pcm will clear a perm code if the condition is corrected.
but you bring up a good point….why are all these hoses cracking … and why are hoses involved in cracks having code problems. I like the watergate theory…stuck closed wastegate will over pressurize the tubes …would they crack…why would the wastegates on 17 thru 19’s get stuck…is this why ford changed the design of the ccv again…are all these 27 thru 19 turbo replacements just stuck watergates in disguise? I don’t have the answer nor any way to test the wastegate.
i can tell you if the wastegate is stuck open…excessive egr flow will go thru the egr simply due to suction. The mass air flow sensor expects a predictable flow drop as the valve opens.
but it is curious how the folks who report this problem never come back to explain how it was resolved.
I used to think forscan and idash could clear permeant codes…but after clearing them with forscan or idash, I put odbclink on the engine and saw the codes still listed. The software help in odbclink says only the pcm will clear a perm code if the condition is corrected.
but you bring up a good point….why are all these hoses cracking … and why are hoses involved in cracks having code problems. I like the watergate theory…stuck closed wastegate will over pressurize the tubes …would they crack…why would the wastegates on 17 thru 19’s get stuck…is this why ford changed the design of the ccv again…are all these 27 thru 19 turbo replacements just stuck watergates in disguise? I don’t have the answer nor any way to test the wastegate.
i can tell you if the wastegate is stuck open…excessive egr flow will go thru the egr simply due to suction. The mass air flow sensor expects a predictable flow drop as the valve opens.
but it is curious how the folks who report this problem never come back to explain how it was resolved.
anyone got any other insight?