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Old 03-25-2019, 09:57 AM
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REPLACING DOOR SPEAKERS ONLY

I know there is a thread "or several" on replacing the door speakers only. My question is how many of you have actually done it and was there a reasonable difference in sound quality? I currently have a 2018 with the Sony sound system. I went to our local audio installer on Saturday morning and was told that replacing the speakers only would do me no good and it would cost me from 1400 -2400 for an upgrade?? I found that to be pretty insane. I just cant see how replacing the speakers alone wouldn't help as crappy as the stocks are.
 
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I tried several brands (Apline, Polk and Fosgate) of two-way replacement speakers. I went back to the Sony OEMs as without adding a DSP/Amp/Sub, they were flat and definitely lacking any bass.
 
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I had the base stereo in my 18 f250 stx and replaced the radio with a jvc it made a big difference im going to upgrade speakers this year


 
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This is for the most part exactly what they just explained to me on the phone, thanks for the response.
 
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Originally Posted by h20camper
I tried several brands (Apline, Polk and Fosgate) of two-way replacement speakers. I went back to the Sony OEMs as without adding a DSP/Amp/Sub, they were flat and definitely lacking any bass.

100% correct! I can say without a DSP it will sound worse. I use a pretty decent SA 3052a for my stereo builds and tuning. Also how I figured out how compressed the sat ratio is and how many octaves and frequencies are missing.
 
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That's pretty common on any vehicle built in the 2000s (or maybe even earlier). The factory radio has all kinds of silly sound processing (DSP) that just destroys the fidelity of the audio signal. So, a factory head unit with aftermarket speakers will have moderate improvements, if any at all. Speakers will just amplify the crappy signal it receives -- garbage in, garbage out.

The best path forward is to swap the factory sub and amp for something better: a Kicker 8" shallow mount sub and ~300W RMS amp will fill out the vehicle. That's what I did on a 2006 Explorer and my current 2005 F-150. That's not intended to make it some kind of block-busting, mirror-shaking system. For country music, classic rock, and even all the way through R&B and rap, replacing the bass track with a suitable set-up makes a shocking improvement.

I wouldn't replace door speakers until I either replaced the factory HU or used one of those sound-stage devices that are intended to replace the frequencies/signals that the factory DSP removed.

Good luck.
 
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I know markets vary but that sounds like a lot of money just for speakers, unless they are some high end components. just for a reference, I was quoted $1100-1200 for a new DSP connected to my stock unit and alpine amp installed and tuned. they said it would sound much better and if I did not like it I could always replace the speakers from there. I have the b&o system but just want something a little cleaner.
 
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Originally Posted by jackbauersmom
I know markets vary but that sounds like a lot of money just for speakers, unless they are some high end components. just for a reference, I was quoted $1100-1200 for a new DSP connected to my stock unit and alpine amp installed and tuned. they said it would sound much better and if I did not like it I could always replace the speakers from there. I have the b&o system but just want something a little cleaner.
I felt it was pretty high myself, unfortunately it seems from all the responses I'll just be leaving it alone as i'm really not wanting to put that kind of money out on the stereo.
 
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I replaced all 4 door speakers in a B&O system that is in a SuperCab. All 4 doors got JL Audio C2 3 way speakers and the rears should have probably been downgraded to 2 way to save a little money. They are better sounding but they make the stock sub woofer sound muddy. That will be next.
 
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Old 03-25-2019, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Dog
I replaced all 4 door speakers in a B&O system that is in a SuperCab. All 4 doors got JL Audio C2 3 way speakers and the rears should have probably been downgraded to 2 way to save a little money. They are better sounding but they make the stock sub woofer sound muddy. That will be next.
Are the front door speakers full range?
 
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They are a single cone style and from what I have read on here they are sound limited through the head unit. It takes a little Forscan change to allow a flat response to the speakers.
 
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They are a single cone style and from what I have read on here they are sound limited through the head unit. It takes a little Forscan change to allow a flat response to the speakers.
I was wondering if the factory has them setup like a midbass with the high frequencys blocked
 
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The fronts are components, a woofer in the door and a tweeter in the A-pillar. The tweeters are piggybacked off the woofers with a simple capacitor on the line to limit the lower frequencies. If I remember correctly they are are high level passed at 3500 Hz. If you are going to replace speakers, I highly recommend you get a component set and not coaxials.
 
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I replaced all 7 speakers on my B&o with door JL's C2 and a Dayton 3.5 mini driver in the center. Night and day differance!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Tricon
The fronts are components, a woofer in the door and a tweeter in the A-pillar. The tweeters are piggybacked off the woofers with a simple capacitor on the line to limit the lower frequencies. If I remember correctly they are are high level passed at 3500 Hz. If you are going to replace speakers, I highly recommend you get a component set and not coaxials.
Figured they were components, was curious why people are putting coaxials and 3 ways in the front.
 


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