I want to send my ECU off for a PATS delete rather than hassle with a dealer to retain a system I do not need even slightly. This service was easy to find for my Chevy but less so for Fords.

Any recommendations?

 

what is wrong with the present system ? Its just a chip key with an electronic ring pickup inside the column.

 

I don't know about a GM system but on Ford Pats, the PCM has to be programmed changed in a software ID block to place 'bit's that normally are place from the PATS via a bus.
If those bits are not transmitted to the PCM from, the Pats transceiver, the PCM won't allow starting by inhibiting the fuel system.
I don't know if a dealer will do this for you for legal reasons on his side regardless of why you want to do it.
Good luck.

 

Present system is on a theft recovery truck and the original receiver no workee due to breakage. I don't live where theft is an issue so a delete is a permanent solution which beats a tow to the dealer then more money to sort it out. If I had to leave any truck someplace sketchy I'd trip the inertia switch before departing or pull a fuse, dyke off one blade and reinstall as we did with our wrecker at the used car lot. (It had three or four columns cracked but we never lost a wrecker.)

I don't want to fix the system, I want it deactivated and have other trucks so sending off the computer is no big deal.

Bluegrass 7 is likely correct on the dealer not messing with it, as I've read they don't in other threads long ago.

 

https://www.fs1inc.com/ford-lincoln-...2BPCM&year=193

 

Looks good. I'll get in touch with them to see about PATS delete since I'm not seeing any details on their site.

 

Are you sure the receiver is not working or did you just lose the programmed keys? You can easily reprogram the PATS to new keys using a cheap usb ELM327 ODB adapter and the free forscan software with an extended license.

You will also probably need the ELM327 adapter and forscan to initialize a new PCM if you go that route.

 

I could fix it conventionally but I really, REALLY dislike those systems which I do not and never will need. The point is not to fix the system, it is to disable it. If no joy I'll slap it back together conventionally with a matched set of parts from another truck. I have the correct key.. A standalone ECU would make life convenient, and I really like convenience. So do people who run standalone ECUs in engine swaps, but for a beater it's not worth an expensive reflash.

So far all I see are expensive tunes to delete it on Fords (a captive market means more profit so I understand) but the tech exists to do what I want. As vehicles age the fewer components required the better. Apparently the Chevy aftermarket dwarfs Ford in this respect. 75 bucks gets me a reflash and my computer back in days on the other brand and the gent has been doing them about 18 years. (He makes a full time job out of it so I see why he has no need to expand to Fords.)

I'll keep looking as I enjoy the hunt.

Turns out

https://www.fs1inc.com/ford-lincoln-...2BPCM&year=193

are useless for this as they only program to stock specs.

 

I know this is now an old thread, but I just wanted to say that we offer a PATS Delete service that shuts PATS off permanently on most Ford vehicles. And it's very cost effective.

Regards,
Steve Hulett
Drag Radial Performance

 

I'm interested in more information about how to go about shutting off PATS in my 2011 F150 5.0.

Thanks,
Matt

 

HVAC, you might left click on pontisteve name in his post and you get a drop down box ... click on "send e-mail" ... he should see that. He might miss your post.

 

I haven't quite mastered that one yet, but I do know a guy. Send me a PM.

 

Thanks for posting!
As these trucks age there's no need for that annoying "feature". I've seen others on Ebay but it's good to know someone on FTE does it. Do you also do rear oxygen sensor deletes and can you program a computer per a different VIN if the customer supplies the number? That would allow them sending you one to flash while using their existing computer, or if theirs is dead or missing, replacing it.

The less vendor lock the better. I've seen Fords go dirt cheap because the seller had no key and didn't want to drag an old truck to the dealer. This will only get more common and a delete could keep an otherwise sound truck on the road.

 

I have multiple aftermarket softwares that allows me to make any changes I want, but of course some things should not or cannot be changed. I also have factory Ford dealership software (IDS) which allows me to reprogram the VIN, update the PCM to the latest calibration available from Ford, update gear ratio, tire size, and other things (gears and tires are not stored in the PCM on Explorers and Rangers though). I even have engineering software.

I'm also #1 on Ebay for this service. A PATS delete is mandatory on many engine swaps, and as you wisely noted, this service can keep some old trucks from going to the junkyard or from being sold dirt cheap because of a failed PATS system. There's a lot of guys doing Explorer 5.0 Ranger swaps that don't know this exists, so I thought it was important to let you guys know it exists, and that I can do it.

 

If your truck starts, nothing is wrong. But when these trucks age, these anti-theft systems begin to fail on some trucks (like everything else). So one day you go to leave the mall, and your truck won't start. The theft light is blinking rapidly, and the engine cranks over, but it just won't run. The PATS system is either detecting the wrong key, a bad key, or something in the system has failed.

The system is hard to diagnose, easy to spend hundreds of dollars on, and then after repairs the keys must be programmed which could mean a tow to the dealer from wherever it's at now. You can easily blow several hundred dollars fixing some of the LEAST expensive parts of this system. Some of the more expensive parts are the instrument cluster and the PCM.

When a truck gets to be around 20 years old or so, you have to question whether it's worth spending this kind of money to repair an anti-theft system on a truck that might not be at great risk of being stolen. Also, even if you fix it today, another failure could leave you walking again some time soon. By having me delete PATS, you're guaranteeing that won't leave you stranded and that the passive anti-theft system will not be the cause of a no-start.

Also, if you are swapping an engine and EFI into a different vehicle, this is necessary. For example, installing this EFI engine into a 1970 Maverick, the Maverick is not going to have the PATS system and therefore would never be able to start unless you delete the system in the PCM.

There are other uses for PATS deletes too. For example, police cars don't like to use PATS. They don't want any chance of that technology failing and stopping them from using their vehicle every time. I would imagine Fire emergency vehicles too. Or perhaps someone who owns a Fleet is more concerned with his fleet truck breaking down and missing work than he is with the truck being stolen. In all these cases, it makes good sense to delete PATS.