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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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Bill, the 6.8 3V V10 has awesome low speed torque. 6.2L torque is lower than 6.8L until the the V10 rolls over above 4000 rpm.
 
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Tom - the shape of the 6.2L torque curve is slightly more peaky. Peak torque is at 4250rp, and red line is at 6000rpm.
However, the 6.2L torque is much higher than the 5.4L throughout the engine speed range.
At no point do they cross.
The VCT is different. The modular engines use a dual equal oil pressure actuated VCT mechanism, while the new 6.2L uses a dual equal cam torque actuated VCT mechanism.
 
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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What about the spark plug problem on the 5.4 will the 6.2 be any different?
 
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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We have not had any issues with spark plugs during the extensive and rigorous testing schedule.

The plug is almost identical to the 3.5L V6 Duratec engine, which has proved to be very robust.
 
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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Subscribing as the 6.2L will likely be the engine in my next Super Duty.

Thanks to Mike for getting on here to answer questions
 
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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Hi Mike! And welcome! I just had to ask, why was the decision made to fade the monster 6.8L V10 out! I mean, like you stated you can't replace displacement! For a gas motor i thought it was the perfect fit for the superduty! And is there any future plans for a larger gas engine bigger than the 6.2L?
 
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mike-v8ford
The VCT is different. The modular engines use a dual equal oil pressure actuated VCT mechanism, while the new 6.2L uses a dual equal cam torque actuated VCT mechanism.
Okay, so it's going to have a different VCT system. Is this similar to the system used in the Duratec V6s?

Also, why the change in technology? Reliability? Capability? Speed?
 
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mike-v8ford
Hi Adrian - thanks for the welcome. It's 8:50pm here in SE Michigan.
To answer your questions.
  1. The new 6.2L is all new. It shares nothing with any of the other V8 or V6 engines in the Ford Powertrain line up. The bore centers are 115mm, compared with the Modular 100mm bore centers. This allows us to have a relatively large 102mm bore, and make decent power from a 2 valve per cylinder engine.
Mike,
The 6.8L started out as a 2 valve per cylinder and was later upgraded to a 3-valve which created more power. Wouldn't this reasoning hold true for the 6.2L as well?
Thanks,
Stew
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Where can I look to get the best description of the new 6.2?
 
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Mike thanks for hanging out at FTE and answering questions.
 
Old Feb 3, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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Does the 6.2 use the "cam-within-a-cam" technology like the GM and Chrysler OHV V8s to achieve independent exhaust/intake timing with just one cam per head, or is it just standard non-independent VCT?

So the way I understand it, the engine is a SOHC, 2 valve per cylinder, 2 sparkplug per cylinder engine?


@Ex03AK, Chrysler and GM have proven its possible to get tremendous power out of their 2 valve OHV V8s. I think it will be interesting to see just how much power Ford can extract from this design.
 
Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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Dusty, the 6.8 3V engine is still available in the Superduty for 2011my - but only in the F450/F550 gas applications. The 6.2L will provide more than enough capability for F250/F350 applications.
 
Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:46 AM
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Tom - the VCT system (cam torque actuated) is used on the 3.0L Escape and Fusion engines currently. Because the system used camshaft torsional energy to phase the cams, rather than oil pressure, you can run with a smaller oil pump on the engine, reducing engine friction and therefore improving fuel economy. The cams can also be phased a lower engine speeds.
 
Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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Stew, anything is possible. Horsepower is directly correlated to airflow, which is strongly governed by valve area. The more valve area (lift/valve diameter/number of valves) the more airflow, and the more power you get. Torque doesn't really respond much though, and is more a function of tuning (cam phasing and runner lengths) and displacement.
 
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