View Poll Results: which is your favorite oil brand
ROYAL PURPLE
2
2.08%
CHEVRON OIL
7
7.29%
HAVOLINE
6
6.25%
VALVOLINE
12
12.50%
CASTROL GTX
17
17.71%
SUPER TECH OIL
2
2.08%
MOBIL ONE
21
21.88%
PENZOIL
7
7.29%
QUAKERSTATE
2
2.08%
OTHER,TELL ME WHICH ONE YOU USE
20
20.83%
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oil type what oil do you like
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From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by jschira
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
7.3 PSDs come with an IH filter made by Champion.
Ford dealers sell an MC filter made by Purolator.
So, do I buy an IH, MC, Purolator or SuperTech/STP/Deutch?
7.3 PSDs come with an IH filter made by Champion.
Ford dealers sell an MC filter made by Purolator.
So, do I buy an IH, MC, Purolator or SuperTech/STP/Deutch?
No, they are actually built against different process variation specifications.
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Mr Ayers, Flaming a product with facts is one thing...Flaming a product without facts is another...If you read the product lable from any automotive oil product from Amsoil, you would see that it carries the same API ratings as any other oil on the market. See the picture I just scanned... http://community.webshots.com/album/47782859OIKUbP
See the picture at the bottom
I now understand where you are coming from Bob, you hate Amsoil, therefore, you are willing to make unfactual statements to prove it. Maybe you ought to stop being so hateful and allow others to post which brands of oil they use without being ostracized by you. If this gets me banned from this site, then so be it, But I can not stand by and watch someone make foolish remarks about the choices of oil that others here on this board use. Have a nice day.
See the picture at the bottom
I now understand where you are coming from Bob, you hate Amsoil, therefore, you are willing to make unfactual statements to prove it. Maybe you ought to stop being so hateful and allow others to post which brands of oil they use without being ostracized by you. If this gets me banned from this site, then so be it, But I can not stand by and watch someone make foolish remarks about the choices of oil that others here on this board use. Have a nice day.
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From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by Midnight_
Mr Ayers, Flaming a product with facts is one thing...Flaming a product without facts is another...If you read the product lable from any automotive oil product from Amsoil, you would see that it carries the same API ratings as any other oil on the market. See the picture I just scanned... http://community.webshots.com/album/47782859OIKUbP
See the picture at the bottom
I now understand where you are coming from Bob, you hate Amsoil, therefore, you are willing to make unfactual statements to prove it. Maybe you ought to stop being so hateful and allow others to post which brands of oil they use without being ostracized by you. If this gets me banned from this site, then so be it, But I can not stand by and watch someone make foolish remarks about the choices of oil that others here on this board use. Have a nice day.
See the picture at the bottom
I now understand where you are coming from Bob, you hate Amsoil, therefore, you are willing to make unfactual statements to prove it. Maybe you ought to stop being so hateful and allow others to post which brands of oil they use without being ostracized by you. If this gets me banned from this site, then so be it, But I can not stand by and watch someone make foolish remarks about the choices of oil that others here on this board use. Have a nice day.
Actually, it's not just Amsoil, it's any multi-level marketing company that lie and brainwash people, and you are sure showing the signs of being brainwashed by Amsoil!!
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Joined: Nov 2002
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From: Mansfield, TX USA
Originally Posted by Bob Ayers
Motorcraft and Autolite spark plugs are both made by Honeywell. So, does this mean they are the same plug?
No, they are actually built against different process variation specifications.
No, they are actually built against different process variation specifications.
Also, do I follow IH's choice or Ford's choice?
BTW, my wife's college roommate was the QC manager of Autolite's plant in Spartanburg a few years back. I walked the line with her. I'm not saying that the there were not differences in the plugs, but it sure isn't much. The threaded metal end cap/nut starts out as a thick roll of wire about 1" in diameter. That gets fed into a CNC machine that cuts the threads and nut and cuts it to length. All of this wire comes off of one big spool. Similarly, the electrode wire all comes off of one big spool. The ceramic insulators were fired in Fostoria, Ohio, but those kilns may be shut down now.
Now for its electrodes, maybe MC specifies a different electrode wire alloy, but the ceramic insulator and the threaded metal end cap are all the same.
Last edited by jschira; May 30, 2004 at 04:09 PM.
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From: Durham, NC
FACT, Amsoil API Certified oils:
API Certified
NOT API Certified
SERIES 2000 - SAE 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
SERIES 2000 - SAE 20W-50 Synthetic Racing Oil
SAE 5W-20 XL-7500 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 XL-7500 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 10W-30 XL-7500 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 30 Synthetic Diesel Oil
SAE 5W-40 Synthetic European Engine Oil
SAE 10W-40 XL-7500 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 60 Synthetic Heavy Racing Oil
SAE 0W-40 Formula 4-Stroke Motor Oil
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic High Performance Motor Oil
SAE 20W-50 Synthetic High Performance Motor Oil
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic High Performance Motorcycle Engine Oil
SAE 20W-50 Synthetic High Performance Motorcycle Engine Oil
SAE (20W)-40 Synthetic Natural Gas Motor Oil, API CC (Low Ash)
SERIES 3000 - SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Oil
SAE 15W-40 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel and Marine Motor Oil
SAE 15W-40 Synthetic Blend Diesel Oil
What's interesting, the oil that Amsoil claims is for "Extended Change Intervals" IS NOT API Certified!!
For reference, here is the API License URL:
http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0995
And, just as a comparison to another API certified oil,
here is Chevron's (notice the difference in certifications!!)
http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0090
API Certified
NOT API Certified
SERIES 2000 - SAE 0W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
SERIES 2000 - SAE 20W-50 Synthetic Racing Oil
SAE 5W-20 XL-7500 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 XL-7500 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 10W-30 XL-7500 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 30 Synthetic Diesel Oil
SAE 5W-40 Synthetic European Engine Oil
SAE 10W-40 XL-7500 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
SAE 60 Synthetic Heavy Racing Oil
SAE 0W-40 Formula 4-Stroke Motor Oil
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic High Performance Motor Oil
SAE 20W-50 Synthetic High Performance Motor Oil
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic High Performance Motorcycle Engine Oil
SAE 20W-50 Synthetic High Performance Motorcycle Engine Oil
SAE (20W)-40 Synthetic Natural Gas Motor Oil, API CC (Low Ash)
SERIES 3000 - SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Oil
SAE 15W-40 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel and Marine Motor Oil
SAE 15W-40 Synthetic Blend Diesel Oil
What's interesting, the oil that Amsoil claims is for "Extended Change Intervals" IS NOT API Certified!!
For reference, here is the API License URL:
http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0995
And, just as a comparison to another API certified oil,
here is Chevron's (notice the difference in certifications!!)
http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0090
Last edited by Bob Ayers; May 30, 2004 at 06:07 PM.
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All oils must pass certain tests before they can go to "market", just some have certain additives to make the customer buy it off the shelf. Nothing more than good advertising in most cases (no pun intended). I would think finding an oil that you are comfortable using and that is "required" for your vehicle and STAYING WITH IT.....for the life of the engine makes more sense.
Gary
Gary
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From: Denton,TX
Originally Posted by Midnight_
Mr Ayers, Flaming a product with facts is one thing...Flaming a product without facts is another...If you read the product lable from any automotive oil product from Amsoil, you would see that it carries the same API ratings as any other oil on the market. See the picture I just scanned... http://community.webshots.com/album/47782859OIKUbP
See the picture at the bottom
I now understand where you are coming from Bob, you hate Amsoil, therefore, you are willing to make unfactual statements to prove it. Maybe you ought to stop being so hateful and allow others to post which brands of oil they use without being ostracized by you. If this gets me banned from this site, then so be it, But I can not stand by and watch someone make foolish remarks about the choices of oil that others here on this board use. Have a nice day.
See the picture at the bottom
I now understand where you are coming from Bob, you hate Amsoil, therefore, you are willing to make unfactual statements to prove it. Maybe you ought to stop being so hateful and allow others to post which brands of oil they use without being ostracized by you. If this gets me banned from this site, then so be it, But I can not stand by and watch someone make foolish remarks about the choices of oil that others here on this board use. Have a nice day.
1. Most of their oils are not API certified
2. Amsoil has several excuses that they use for not having all their oils API certified (funny thing, small companies like Royal Purple have their oils certified)
3. Amsoil has designed a symbol on their non-API certified oils so that at a quick glance looks like the API symbol
4. Amsoil uses MLM to sell their products, a system of marketing that is found to be annoying to the greater majority of consumers
5. Amsoil is expensive
6. Using a non-API certified oil can result in denial of warranty work (there was an example of this in the 6.0 forum a few months back)
7. A popular nickname for Amsoil for those who don't like it is ScAmsoil
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Horsepuller, no disrespect to you, however, All I did was answer the question of what oil do I use and Mr Ayers Flames me for using that product. If this is the way that you run this forum then please by all means, take me out!! Remove me from the forum, delete my account!! I do not want to be a part of a club that is biased and hateful towards others that use products from MLM or other companies....I am just using the product and do not deserve this kind of treatment.
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