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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Well after 285,000 miles it did it!

98 F 150 4.2 v6 Driving back from town and my oil pressuer gauge dropped to the bottom and the oil light can on. So I pulled off the road and the truck stalled. So I sat for a few min's and started it back up still no pressure but the truck ran. So I limped it the rest of the way home ( 1/2 mile) and and watch the temp gauge the whole way ( no movement) got it home and it stalled again. So I checked the oil dip stick and the fluid is a gold color. Called my Mach. and he came over and said it might be the head gasket. He is going to start to tear into it Tuseday morn. Hopefuly its just the gaskest. but with my luck this year it's going to be alot more.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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you have no oil pressure, the oil is full of bronze, and your mechanic thinks the head gasket is leaking ?????? I think i would look for another mechanic .
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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was thinkin the same thing....
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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Hmmmm, what does lack of oil pressure got to do with head gaskets? Isn't it more likely he's describing a spun bearing? Or am I pointing out the obvious here? I'm just sayin...
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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I hate it for ya. but I don't think it's a headgasket.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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Think that NO pressure warrents checking pressure with a gage first before tearing into an engine, just looking?
I think you should be looking at the sender switch first.
It's located behind the oil filter.
And get another mechanic if that is the best he can do as the first guess.
NOTE: If the motor got hard to crank over, stop. It maybe seizing up for lack of oil pressure that would be an internal problem but still not normally a head gasket.
Good luck.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:43 AM
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Think that NO pressure warrents checking pressure with a gage first before tearing into an engine, just looking?
I think you should be looking at the sender switch first.
It's located behind the oil filter.
And get another mechanic if that is the best he can do as the first guess.
NOTE: If the motor got hard to crank over, stop. It maybe seizing up for lack of oil pressure that would be an internal problem but still not normally a head gasket.
Good luck.
Motor started just up just like normal. He said he is going to try a few things before he tears into it.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:44 AM
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you have no oil pressure, the oil is full of bronze, and your mechanic thinks the head gasket is leaking ?????? I think i would look for another mechanic .
Then what do think it might be?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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Then what do think it might be?
As others have mentioned, you need to confirm the oil pressure with a mechanical gauge first. Might just be a bad sending unit. I'd cut the oil filter open and see if there's any metal in it. When he said that the oil had a bronze color, did that mean there were particles (copper) in it or did it have a bronze tint like clean, new oil?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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As others have mentioned, you need to confirm the oil pressure with a mechanical gauge first. Might just be a bad sending unit. I'd cut the oil filter open and see if there's any metal in it. When he said that the oil had a bronze color, did that mean there were particles (copper) in it or did it have a bronze tint like clean, new oil?
No metal parts or specks on the dip stick. and the oil was not clean it was kinda thick and bronze / gold color
 
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Sounds like a Fram oil filter that you may have put on exploded and clogged up you oil passageways. Just what it sounds like, not saying thats it.
 
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what has FRAM got to do with it ? Filters do not explode and plug ports. I would drain the oil and remove the filter. "bronze" dirty oil means very fine particles of brass suspended in the oil. see if you have any flakes in the drain. Im guessing that the oil pressure is actually very low, possibly zero. If thats the case, you have spun main bearings. The original gauge is on- off. It really does not read pressure, it turns on and off at 8 psi. If you have 7 psi- it reads zero.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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what has FRAM got to do with it ? Filters do not explode and plug ports. I would drain the oil and remove the filter. "bronze" dirty oil means very fine particles of brass suspended in the oil. see if you have any flakes in the drain. Im guessing that the oil pressure is actually very low, possibly zero. If thats the case, you have spun main bearings. The original gauge is on- off. It really does not read pressure, it turns on and off at 8 psi. If you have 7 psi- it reads zero.
My Mech was going to do that first. (Drain the oil) I am going to call him to day and see what he has found out.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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It was a joke Steve...
 
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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I bet what happened is your intake gasket started leaking coolant down into the engine. Even after Ford supposedly "fixed" this issue with a thicker gasket, they still do it on occasion. That would have thinned your oil out slowly and could have easily burned up the bearings from lack of lubrication. Its a 4.2 thing.
 
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