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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Help me ID these parts Please

Hey guys i need help finding out what these two transmissions are and what the rear is.

Here is the rear:
Is this a 9 inch ford?



Here is trans 1:
It has "3H-D" in yellow on the tail shaft.
Im thinking its a 3 speed.
It also has a series of numbers on the driver side top

17 and then on a bracket it says"AF-7006-D"

What are the gear ratios?




Here is the 2nd trans, I need help with this one for sure.
What is that disc on the back for?



Here is what is says:

T89C-1A
WG DIV

Then the plate to the bottom right says 1-10
and there is a backwards "30" stamped into the casting. (this is at the bottom center


What is this and what does it do?

Thanks guys.

I hope you guys can help.
Also everything is for sale. (i am going to put in a 351w and 5 or 6 speed
trans.) I dont know what they are worth so be nice please.

Steve
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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The disc on the back is the emergency brake. I have one similar to that in my 37 Airflow. That transmission looks to be from a car.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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The rear axle is a Dana 44 stock before 1957. The ratio will be on the plate attached to the drivers door frame. Probably 3.92 or something like that.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sofob0909
Hey guys i need help finding out what these two transmissions are and what the rear is.

Is this a 9 inch ford?

17 and then on a bracket it says"AF-7006-D"

T89C-1A WG DIV
Ford 9" rear axles do not have an inspection cover.

AF-7006-D is not the trans ID number, it's the Ford ID engineering number for the transmission case...only.

The case was used in 1949/54 Ford/Merc passenger cars. The extension housing is also car only, because it has a flange on it for the car's transmission mount.

The Warner Gear T-89 3 speed manual transmission with the drum type emergency brake is not from any Ford that I know of.

The only vehicles I can think of off hand that used this combo were 1941/47 Studebaker M Series trucks with the 170 I-6 flathead.

Studebaker also used T-89's in some I-6 passenger cars from circa 1939 thru 1966.

Chrysler products (as noted) used drum type emergency brakes thru (at least) 1948. But I dunno what 3 spd manual trans' Chrysler used.

I'm only familar with their Fluid Drive and the Fluid-Matic aka Tip-Toe Matic semi-auto's (called Clunk-O-Matic by ppl back then).

51PanelMan: Are you in the Airflow Club? A pal of mine has a '34 De Soto Airflow sedan (it's light green) he drives to the GTG's.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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thats awesome that its a dana 44. Those are suposedly really strong.

Can i get some more info on the two transmissions.
How do you know they are for car?
What is the difference between the car and truck transmission.

I will look for some more data tags/ numbers.

How much are these worth?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sofob0909
thats awesome that its a dana 44. Those are suposedly really strong.

Can i get some more info on the two transmissions.
How do you know they are for car?
What is the difference between the car and truck transmission.
Passenger cars have a transmission crossmember and a flange on the extension housing. The transmission rubber insulator bolts to the flange then to the crossmember.

The truck's have the trans crossmember, but do not have a flange on the extension housing. Instead, there are two ears on the bellhousing.

Trucks have four trans rubber 'donut' insulators, two uppers, two lowers per side. One insulator fits in between the ear of the bellhousing and the crossmember, another fits below the crossmember.

A bolt goes thru the lower insulator, thru the crossmember, thru the upper insulator, thru the ear in the bellhousing, where a nut holds the whole tamale together.

AF-7006-D, the ID number on the case, cross references to Ford part number 1A-7006-A = fits: 1949/54 Ford Passenger Cars.

The 3 speed manual trans used from 1948 thru 1962 in F1/F2/F100/250's shares some parts with the cars 3 speed manual, but is a heavier duty unit.

While some Ford trucks had drum emergency brakes, I know of no Ford car or truck that used the Warner T-89.

Many moons ago, before I was a Ford partsman, I was a Studebaker partsman.

So I know that Studebaker cars/trucks used the flathead & OHV versions of the 170 I-6 engine along with the Warner T-89.

Some Studebaker trucks came with the Warner T-89 and the drum type emergency brake.

It's possible that the Warner T-89 with its drum type emergency brake is from a car, but what make of car...I have no idea.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:44 AM
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Car or truck 3 spd

I have a 58 F100 panel with a 3 speed casing number 1A-7006-A. And I am shopping for a replacement or spare.
If I understand Bill's reply, mine may be a car casing.
I have found several AF-7006-D (case #) online and wonder how they are different.

Mikev58
 
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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T-89 trivia. The Novak Guide to the Borg-Warner T89 Transmission
 
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mikev58
I have a 58 F100 panel with a 3 speed casing number 1A-7006-A. And I am shopping for a replacement or spare.
If I understand Bill's reply, mine may be a car casing.
I have found several AF-7006-D (case #) online and wonder how they are different.

Mikev58
Hi Mike, you may have better luck on the '57-'60 sub-forum, 1957 - 1960 F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Another great resource for transmissions is Van Pelt Sales, VANPELT SALES LLC - your ford flathead source since 2006
I'm not sure how "modern" of models he covers, but his knowledge is second to none.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2016 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mikev58
I have a 58 F100 panel with a 3 speed casing number 1A-7006-A. And I am shopping for a replacement or spare. If I understand Bill's reply, mine may be a car casing.
1957/62 Ford Custom/Fairlane (1957/61)/Galaxie/Galaxie 500/Galaxie 500XL used the same 3 speed manual trans case as like F100/250's, updated part number: C1AZ-7006-A

The extension housing aka tailshaft (bolts to the case) is car or truck specific.
 
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