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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Cam phasers

About 2 months ago my 2004 F-150 truck started having tappet noise on idle. I thought nothing of it. Two weeks ago, I changed the oil and filter at 46000 miles and the emission light came on. I paid a Ford dealer $145.00 to troubleshoot it and they came up with:"You need a new alternator for $565". I then took it to a very reliable and honest mechanic and after 12 hours, told me the driver side cam phaser was not operating and the oil galleries were gunked up. To replace BOTH phasers, flush the oil system, replace the spark plugs--$2300.00 including $120 troubleshooting. I get the truck, guaranteed 1yr., in 2 days.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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FORD ESP...... I just had the same thing done. cost me $100 on a 2004 FX4 5.4l 24v with 68,000
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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I also just had the same thing done after an oil change and filter, 55,000 miles but under warranty though, cost 100.00, No Warranty??
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Crap mine has started that tapping sound.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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And what exactly do cam phasers do??
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PME2.5
I also just had the same thing done after an oil change and filter, 55,000 miles but under warranty though, cost 100.00, No Warranty??
I have warranty but its extended ford ESP which i have a deductible which is better then paying $2300
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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And what exactly do cam phasers do??
Here, read this Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_Cam_Timing_(Ford)

I know its kinda technical, but basically the Powertrain Control Module opens a solenoid that lets oil flow into the cam phasers, which are located on the end of the camshafts (like cam gears). The oil limits how much the cams are retarded or advanced. Its an effective way to change cam timing to reduce emmissions, increase gas mileage and engine power.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 06:44 AM
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Cam phasers

I've read a ton of articles regarding the phasers. What I can't seem to find is if there have been any engine failures (blown) due to phasers? Do the noisy phasers "fail" at some point?

My '04 5.4 with 134,000 has had the noise for over 100,000 miles. I've used Mobil 1 5W-20 from day one...
 
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yeah my 5.4 has been doing it since 100,000km im at 114,000km and i only use mobil1 5w 20 apparently its normal?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by markstanfield
I've read a ton of articles regarding the phasers. What I can't seem to find is if there have been any engine failures (blown) due to phasers? Do the noisy phasers "fail" at some point?

My '04 5.4 with 134,000 has had the noise for over 100,000 miles. I've used Mobil 1 5W-20 from day one...
I use nothing but motorcraft oil 5w20 but i have not seen anyone blow their motor due to cam phasers but i lost a lot of gas mileage. When it started happening i was getting 19mpg and when it got the worst i was getting 12mpg and about 3 tanks after that im up to about 17mpg so far
 
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