Notices
2004 - 2008 F150 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 Ford F150's with 5.4 V8, 4.6 V8 engine
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Cam phasers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 15, 2009 | 01:56 PM
  #1  
RJM4u's Avatar
RJM4u
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Cam phasers

About 2 months ago my 2004 F-150 truck started having tappet noise on idle. I thought nothing of it. Two weeks ago, I changed the oil and filter at 46000 miles and the emission light came on. I paid a Ford dealer $145.00 to troubleshoot it and they came up with:"You need a new alternator for $565". I then took it to a very reliable and honest mechanic and after 12 hours, told me the driver side cam phaser was not operating and the oil galleries were gunked up. To replace BOTH phasers, flush the oil system, replace the spark plugs--$2300.00 including $120 troubleshooting. I get the truck, guaranteed 1yr., in 2 days.
 
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2009 | 05:47 PM
  #2  
ggwash21's Avatar
ggwash21
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 393
Likes: 2
FORD ESP...... I just had the same thing done. cost me $100 on a 2004 FX4 5.4l 24v with 68,000
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:31 PM
  #3  
PME2.5's Avatar
PME2.5
New User
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
I also just had the same thing done after an oil change and filter, 55,000 miles but under warranty though, cost 100.00, No Warranty??
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:37 PM
  #4  
Sethw3's Avatar
Sethw3
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Missouri City
Crap mine has started that tapping sound.
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:44 PM
  #5  
PME2.5's Avatar
PME2.5
New User
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
And what exactly do cam phasers do??
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 07:42 PM
  #6  
ggwash21's Avatar
ggwash21
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 393
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by PME2.5
I also just had the same thing done after an oil change and filter, 55,000 miles but under warranty though, cost 100.00, No Warranty??
I have warranty but its extended ford ESP which i have a deductible which is better then paying $2300
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:45 PM
  #7  
stanger_missle's Avatar
stanger_missle
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 218
Likes: 2
From: Tampa, FL
Originally Posted by PME2.5
And what exactly do cam phasers do??
Here, read this Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_Cam_Timing_(Ford)

I know its kinda technical, but basically the Powertrain Control Module opens a solenoid that lets oil flow into the cam phasers, which are located on the end of the camshafts (like cam gears). The oil limits how much the cams are retarded or advanced. Its an effective way to change cam timing to reduce emmissions, increase gas mileage and engine power.
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 06:44 AM
  #8  
markstanfield's Avatar
markstanfield
New User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Cam phasers

I've read a ton of articles regarding the phasers. What I can't seem to find is if there have been any engine failures (blown) due to phasers? Do the noisy phasers "fail" at some point?

My '04 5.4 with 134,000 has had the noise for over 100,000 miles. I've used Mobil 1 5W-20 from day one...
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:53 AM
  #9  
BirdmanStyll's Avatar
BirdmanStyll
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
yeah my 5.4 has been doing it since 100,000km im at 114,000km and i only use mobil1 5w 20 apparently its normal?
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 09:41 AM
  #10  
ggwash21's Avatar
ggwash21
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 393
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by markstanfield
I've read a ton of articles regarding the phasers. What I can't seem to find is if there have been any engine failures (blown) due to phasers? Do the noisy phasers "fail" at some point?

My '04 5.4 with 134,000 has had the noise for over 100,000 miles. I've used Mobil 1 5W-20 from day one...
I use nothing but motorcraft oil 5w20 but i have not seen anyone blow their motor due to cam phasers but i lost a lot of gas mileage. When it started happening i was getting 19mpg and when it got the worst i was getting 12mpg and about 3 tanks after that im up to about 17mpg so far
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jon11B
2009 - 2014 F150
5
Jul 11, 2014 12:35 PM
jrroth
2004 - 2008 F150
6
Sep 17, 2013 05:44 PM
Mike(GA)
2004 - 2008 F150
5
May 28, 2012 10:24 AM
VINZB
Modular V8 (4.6L, 5.4L)
0
May 26, 2011 10:08 AM
thomas_e102
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
13
Sep 5, 2010 11:05 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:21 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE