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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Truck wont start (selenoid click)

I have been having trouble starting my truck for a little while now. Once and a while it wont start ( i turn the ignition for a few minutes and sometimes it goes). Welll that doesn't work anymore. I just get the click when i turn the ignition. I have since cleaned all the connections and still no luck.

Do you think it may be the starter? If it is... is this an easy do it yourself? Thoughts and comments are welcome!

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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Could be a lot of things. A parts store will test the starter. If you have any doubts about it, take it in and have them check it out. It's easy to take off, just a couple bolts holding it on.

It could also be the starter relay on the fender.

Don't forget battery cables - the get water inside, they corrode and don't carry the current needed to crank any more. That almost sounds like what you're experiencing.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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The way I check the solinoid relay is to jump power from the small pole on the front to the battery cable with a srewdriver, if the engine turns over, then problem lies with the relay or the ign. switch.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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I had the starter go out on mine. I tried to jump from the battery post to the ignition post. The starter did nothing but cook from that direct voltage.

You have already have enough possible answers to the question. Check the batter that it actually has enough charge to start the truck with a volt meter. If it isnt roughly 12 volts with rounding then it is the battery. if the starter tests good then its between the battery and the starter, i.e. either cables or the selinoid itself. Also, check to see if you have a good motor to batter ground and a good contact on the housing for the starter. A bad grounding issue can stop a starter in its tracks.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by alxsnmr
II tried to jump from the battery post to the ignition post. The starter did nothing but cook from that direct voltage.
What do you think the starter relay (not a solenoid, BTW) does?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Exactly what I did but at the time I was hoping it wasn't a bad starter.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Starter moters have brushes in them that wear down. Sometimes when they get worn down enough they will start sometimes and sometimes not. Testing at a parts store may show them working.

Take the starter motor apart and check the brushes.

Brushes cost dollars, starter motors cost tens of dollars, i.e. $4 versus $60.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by g_k50
Take the starter motor apart and check the brushes.
why? that is pointless advice. not to mention very labor intensive. what if it's a simple fault that good troubleshooting procedures can find without a single wrench being turned?

the easiest way to find the fault is:

1. get a voltmeter and verify you have roughly 12volts at the starter solenoid terminal
2. use a screwdriver and jumper across the starter relay
if truck starts, the relay is most likely bad. if truck doesn't start, and you have 12 volts present at the starter relay, then either the cabling at the starter is corroded, or the starter itself is bad
3. if you have a manual, make sure the clutch neutral switch is working. this switch ensures the clutch is depressed before allowing power to the starter
4. check your park/neutral switch on the tranny if an auto
 
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Old Aug 17, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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The starter is bad because the brushes are worn.
Replace the brushes and the starter works.

That's Why
 
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by g_k50
The starter is bad because the brushes are worn.
Replace the brushes and the starter works.

That's Why
I didn't word my question properly when I quoted you.


What is the point in removing the starter first to check brushes?

You can perform several simple NON-INVASIVE troubleshooting checks first. After you narrow it down to the starter itself, then remove the starter.
BTW, brush cleaning and replacement is not easy. At most an amatuer doing the job can do basically what is a bandaide patch. Get you through a little while, but it'll go bad again fairly quickly
 
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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I went to clean the terminals on the starter and they were so badly corroded they snapped off... so i had to get a new started.... still did not start
(that was ok cause i still needed the started anyways)
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I ended up doing what birtha66 does and (it started right up) I then knew it was the switch. Went to autozone $18 for new part and it works great.
Total cost $118 and thanks for the help everyone
 
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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by deepbass
I ended up doing what birtha66 does and (it started right up) I then knew it was the switch. Went to autozone $18 for new part and it works great.
Total cost $118 and thanks for the help everyone
it almost always ends up being that stupid little relay. almost every Ford I've had ends up doing it.

$18 for that thing now...wow, it was only $11 last time I replaced one. darn inflation
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by deepbass
I went to clean the terminals on the starter and they were so badly corroded they snapped off... so i had to get a new started.... still did not start
(that was ok cause i still needed the started anyways)


I ended up doing what birtha66 does and (it started right up) I then knew it was the switch. Went to autozone $18 for new part and it works great.
Total cost $118 and thanks for the help everyone
I'm glad that it worked out.
 
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