A/C Compressor for a 1990
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I have the same truck. I was quoted by a friend who runs an AC shop that it would be about $1100 to install a new compressor and charge the system. He normally charges $1300.
If you get it fixed for cheaper, let me know. I'd like to see if he's just nuts or if that's what it costs to do the job the right way.
If you get it fixed for cheaper, let me know. I'd like to see if he's just nuts or if that's what it costs to do the job the right way.
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From: Lorain County, Ohio
No, he's not nuts.
If the compressor failed internally, the system is full of metal debris. This means completely disassembling everything under the hood to flush the system, new orifice, new accumulator and new compressor. $1100-1500 is about the going rate for this at a shop.
If the truck has an FX-15 compressor, it will have what is known as Black Death. In that case, you scrap everything under the hood and replace it.
Aircondition.Com - What is Black Death?
If the compressor failed internally, the system is full of metal debris. This means completely disassembling everything under the hood to flush the system, new orifice, new accumulator and new compressor. $1100-1500 is about the going rate for this at a shop.
If the truck has an FX-15 compressor, it will have what is known as Black Death. In that case, you scrap everything under the hood and replace it.
Aircondition.Com - What is Black Death?
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I'll do it myself....
...so it won't cost me that much. I converted it to 134a about 8 years ago and it wasn't suffering from black death then. I just opened it up 2 weeks ago to try and evacuate and recharge....no black death yet. However, even after a good evacuation and recharge, my compressor doesn't build up pressure and higher than 150 psig....so I'm needing a new compressor.
Fleet Mechanic
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...so it won't cost me that much. I converted it to 134a about 8 years ago and it wasn't suffering from black death then. I just opened it up 2 weeks ago to try and evacuate and recharge....no black death yet. However, even after a good evacuation and recharge, my compressor doesn't build up pressure and higher than 150 psig....so I'm needing a new compressor......
The compressor has spit out a reed valve or two. The pieces are hiding downstream in the system somewhere waiting to block the orifice and kill the new compressor. If you pull the old orifice tube, you'll find some of the pieces. Little metal chunks, about the size of coarse salt.
A NEW compressor is about $225, accumulator about $50, orifice $2, Orings about $10, oil about $10.
Hmm, actually less. Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/5hlbnd
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I did pull out the orifice tube 2 weeks ago...
...and no, there isn't a bunch of crap in there. System has been working for 8 years since I last replaced the accumulator, and o-rings, however once it quit being able to cool I decided to evacaute, recharge, install the VOV I've had laying around ...so I did; but the compressor just doesn't build up the necessary pressure any more.
Is that fs10 on the website a good replacement for what I have now?
Is that fs10 on the website a good replacement for what I have now?
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PM Archion, he works for a wholesaler, they have AC, heater, radiator, fuel and even oil pans.
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From: Lorain County, Ohio
...and no, there isn't a bunch of crap in there. System has been working for 8 years since I last replaced the accumulator, and o-rings, however once it quit being able to cool I decided to evacaute, recharge, install the VOV I've had laying around ...so I did; but the compressor just doesn't build up the necessary pressure any more.
Is that fs10 on the website a good replacement for what I have now?
Is that fs10 on the website a good replacement for what I have now?
If it's not the VOV then the compressor has shed some of it's reed valves, thus the need for the accumulator and fllushing. At $10, new orings again wouldn't be a "bad" idea as cheap insurance.
Yes, that FS-10 will fit your truck.
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Geez..I ordered the VOV because it was supposed ...
to be better?
I just installed it with this latest recharge....are you supposing that the VOV may have failed open and therefore I can't build up compressor discharge pressure?
I just installed it with this latest recharge....are you supposing that the VOV may have failed open and therefore I can't build up compressor discharge pressure?
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Geez....I only bought the VOV because...
..it was supposed to be the "hot ticket".
What other vehicles came with this FS-10 compressor? I guess I can look around the junkyard before ordering a brandy-new one....haven't had time to play with it lately.
What other vehicles came with this FS-10 compressor? I guess I can look around the junkyard before ordering a brandy-new one....haven't had time to play with it lately.
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From: Lorain County, Ohio
Most Ford products since the mis 90s used the FS-10. (Not the Ford branded imports). I wouldn't recommend a used one though. Shaft seals are the weak point in those, mainly caused by wear in the front shaft bushing after many miles. The ones that you are likely to find in the junkyard will either be leaking, or soon will be. Cheap remans often have shaft seal problems within about 1-2 years.