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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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US spends too much money 10,000miles away?

Why did previous administrations waste 100's of billions of dollars on wacko programs, wars, spying, aid to S.Korea, Israel, Iraq, Iran or whatever country, and not give one damn about the little islands full of people 100 miles away from Florida? I would ship all the refugees back to their countries and let them rot. But, I am not in charge, and I am powerless as I watch my country invaded by anyone that wishes to swim ashore.
If the U.S. had intelligent plans for the western hemisphere, one plan should have been to keep the stinky little third-world countries under our wing. To make sure the people there led healthy, productive lives, and did not destroy their own countries like a fungus attacks dead wood. Instead, we are invaded by sickly, uneducated, untrained people who have nothing to offer us, except maybe showing us a new way to spend our social security and welfare budgets.
It's about time we go down to Haiti, kick some butt, and show those scumbags how to fix their country. If we don't, there will be wave after wave of refugees flooding into the USA straining our systems.
[i]This country can't support the entire world!
Where do we draw the line ?
Do we stop illegal immigration after a civil war or the nuclear bomb?
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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>Instead, we are invaded by sickly, uneducated, untrained
>people who have nothing to offer us, except maybe showing us
>a new way to spend our social security and welfare budgets.

Hey, you’re talking about future democrat voters. The DNC said they were targeting Jeb Bush to vote him out of office. Only problem was the boat was a week early so they didn't get to the polls in time.

>It's about time we go down to Haiti, kick some butt, and
>show those scumbags how to fix their country. If we don't,
>there will be wave after wave of refugees flooding into the
>USA straining our systems.

You can thank Bill Clinton. He's the one that put that idiot, Jean Bertrand Aristide in charge over there in Haiti.

>[i][b]This country can't support the entire world!
>Where do we draw the line ?

If America is such an evil, bad place like the Hollywood crowd, and other domestic anti-American types, keep telling us it is, then why are people risking their lives just to get here?




 
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 02:38 PM
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unfortunantly, even though the haitians only want something for nothing from us, or like most islamic countries, just to kill americans. the downside is no matter how bad they hate us and want us dead we still have to cater to their every needs and make sure their human rights arent abused. our soldiers must step in front of flying bullets to make sure those Edited by Administration for Content get food.


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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 10:37 PM
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US spends too much money 10,000miles away?

Vote all the liberal democratic tree hugging hippies out of office and all these problems will go away. Now If I could just figure out how to cast a couple billion votes I'd have this fixed.
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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US spends too much money 10,000miles away?

I sense a little frustration and a lot of anger here. I think we need to separate the illegal aliens from the legal immigrants. This nation was founded upon immigration but that did not include sneaking across the borders. We need sensible immigration laws to prevent xenophobia. Why do we limit the number of Irish immigrants yet take all of the Hatians that Haiti will export?

The US seems to discourage intelligent immigration. The Democratic leadership indeed sees votes in the poor immigrant that looks for all of the socialist handouts the government will give to him and her. The Democrats are now trying to call illegals "undocumented workers"! It is their next step toward legitimizing the illegal alien immirgrant. The US needs sensible laws that apply to newly settled immigrants as well. No social security until one pays in. No welfare until one has worked at least for one continuous year. Welfare entitlements should be tied to the amount of work generated by the individual. Something similar to the unemployment program. Illegals should be deported within 7 days whether they come for political asylum or from the Cuban mental asylum.

I could go on but I won't. My main point is that the US should encourage productive immigrants and turn back the illegals and counter productive individuals that only swell the welfare and social security rolls.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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>Why did previous administrations waste 100's of billions of
>dollars on wacko programs, wars, spying, aid to S.Korea,
>Israel, Iraq, Iran or whatever country, and not give one
>damn about the little islands full of people 100 miles away
>from Florida? I would ship all the refugees back to their
>countries and let them rot. But, I am not in charge, and I
>am powerless as I watch my country invaded by anyone that
>wishes to swim ashore.

The answer to this question is found by looking at the big picture. The U.S. tends to look at things in terms of their strategic value to our interests. More to the point (and somewhat more cynically), politicians look at things that are likely to keep them in power or have the potential for removing them from power. Our positions about Israel and Cuba are excellent examples. Any changes to our policies about either country would likely cause an outcry from Jewish Americans and Cuban Americans resulting in some politicians losing their jobs. Likewise our policies about Iraq, Iran or even Saudi Arabia has more to do about what is in the best interests of the country strategically speaking than what is the morally correct thing to do. Kind of the difference between the devil you do know versus the devil you don't know.

> If the U.S. had intelligent plans for the western
>hemisphere, one plan should have been to keep the stinky
>little third-world countries under our wing. To make sure
>the people there led healthy, productive lives, and did not
>destroy their own countries like a fungus attacks dead wood.
>Instead, we are invaded by sickly, uneducated, untrained
>people who have nothing to offer us, except maybe showing us
>a new way to spend our social security and welfare budgets.

In a way, that's what our foreign aid dollars are meant to do. Unfortuantely, most of these countries resent the strings that are attached to our aid packages.

>It's about time we go down to Haiti, kick some butt, and
>show those scumbags how to fix their country. If we don't,
>there will be wave after wave of refugees flooding into the
>USA straining our systems.

We were there in the early '90s for just that reason. The problem is that we don't have the attention span to finish the job. In this case, we went in, threw out the dictator of the week and installed our own government. After a few months of stability we thought the job was done, so we left. It turns out that our guy was just as corrupt as the guy he replaced. Instead of fixing the problem, we just made it worse.

>[i][b]This country can't support the entire world!
>Where do we draw the line ?

Great question! I like to think that we are our brother's keeper, but the fact is that most countries don't want us to impose American style democracy on them. Often times they feel that they're better off working through it themselves. They're probably right! I think we can be our brother's keeper by helping them find the way without telling them the way.

'nuff said

John


 
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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This is a VERY complex issue. The reality is that there will always be third world countries. Haiti will NEVER be an affluent country - sorry - its just reality. I make no apology to anyone when I assert that as a nation we must be motivated and driven first and foremost by what is best for AMERICA in everything we do - particularly foreign policy. Certainly, with our affluence comes an obligation to help others to the extent that we can. In fact we give more foreign aid to the rest of the world than any twenty nations you could name combined. I think many of these problems stem from the loss of that guiding principle which must be to see to our own well-being first and foremost. If we were to follow this principle, immigration policy among other things would be vastly different. Essentially, you would not set foot in this country until and unless you could prove that you could somehow contribute to our national well-being in some way. Furthermore we'd have the will to enforce this policy by all means necessary including deadly force if required. It sounds harsh to say it but we could very easily seal our Souther border if we chose to do so. We simply do not have the societal stomach to do so. So we continue to be bleed to death by paper cut.

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