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starter??
Ok, 1985 F150 inline 6…wouldnt start, trouble shooting, replaced the starter solenoid…went for a drive , stopped at the store, came back out , started it and it sounded like a fan spinning around insanely and the truck would not shut off. I hit the starter on and off and it just kept spinning loudly sound coming from the rear of the motor…and just like that , it stopped…got home ok, but now I need to know WTH was that ? is that going to happen again? it was like the starter would NOT disengage????any ideas out there...
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Your new starter solenoid is a piece of China junk. Are you sure the old one was bad? If not, put it back on. If you are sure the old one was bad, go get another one and get a different brand and spend a little more money. Or try to find a old good one off a junk car or truck.
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ok, replaced the solenoid and truck started fine…BUT, after turning it off and starting again after shopping, the thing went bizurk…sounded like my truck was going to lose something…could not get the truck shut off…it was winding out loudly, like a fan that wouldnt stop..turned completely off and it would not stop???? insanely loud noise…then suddenly a loud pop and it shutdown…it was like the starter did not want to disengage/??? so now I am wondering WTH is wrong? is that going to happen again? do I need to check the starter too???I am a simple backyard mechanic learning on here and youtube and my brother in another state…this is disconcerting as this is my daily driver…
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ok, replaced the solenoid and truck started fine…BUT, after turning it off and starting again after shopping, the thing went bizurk…sounded like my truck was going to lose something…could not get the truck shut off…it was winding out loudly, like a fan that wouldnt stop..turned completely off and it would not stop???? insanely loud noise…then suddenly a loud pop and it shutdown…it was like the starter did not want to disengage/??? so now I am wondering WTH is wrong? is that going to happen again? do I need to check the starter too???I am a simple backyard mechanic learning on here and youtube and my brother in another state…this is disconcerting as this is my daily driver…
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Very common problem, we get a lot of posts on it. No recommendations on what brand, just find one that might be better quality.
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hmmm maybe it was because I let my husband go and get me a new solenoid because I was too lazy to do it myself
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If the starter is not disengaging, your new starter relay has morphed into a paperweight. This is such a common problem, I started the following thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...i-mean-it.html
That thread has some troubleshooting info, including how to test the command coming from the ignition switch. But as Dave has already said, it sure sounds like you got a piece of crap starter relay. Do NOT buy another from the same source, as it is also likely to be bad. Follow the link above for some brands recommended by forum members, and some brands to avoid.
Once you get this mess sorted out, please add your details to that thread, to help out the next guy.
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Please define "it would not stop". Was the engine actually running on its own? Or was the starter merely running continuously? I think you mean the latter, but want to be sure. Big difference in how to proceed. Not trying to bust your butt over a choice of words. Just want to get the details right.
If the starter is not disengaging, your new starter relay has morphed into a paperweight. This is such a common problem, I started the following thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...i-mean-it.html
That thread has some troubleshooting info, including how to test the command coming from the ignition switch. But as Dave has already said, it sure sounds like you got a piece of crap starter relay. Do NOT buy another from the same source, as it is also likely to be bad. Follow the link above for some brands recommended by forum members, and some brands to avoid.
Once you get this mess sorted out, please add your details to that thread, to help out the next guy.
If the starter is not disengaging, your new starter relay has morphed into a paperweight. This is such a common problem, I started the following thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...i-mean-it.html
That thread has some troubleshooting info, including how to test the command coming from the ignition switch. But as Dave has already said, it sure sounds like you got a piece of crap starter relay. Do NOT buy another from the same source, as it is also likely to be bad. Follow the link above for some brands recommended by forum members, and some brands to avoid.
Once you get this mess sorted out, please add your details to that thread, to help out the next guy.
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Ok, the starter was running continuously…..yep, Dave was correct and now to do the search and repair…have a guy down the street that I noticed has about 10 F150’s different years…time to meetup and see if he is willing to part out some things I may need in the future..will start with a solenoid…thanks for the info lead driver kr98664
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I am running a NAPA T.O.L. and have not had any issues in the lase 2 years.
It is more money but well worth it be cause if the starter stays engauged you can hurt the flywheel, starter and need to replace them along with the solenoid that caused all this.
While at it if the battery cables look if'y just replace them (BTW you cant always tell they are bad by looking at them) with the biggest wire, not the out side cover, you can find.
Neg from battery to motor> to frame & motor to firewall
Pos from battery to starter solenoid> starter.
The solenoid needs to be grounded to the inner fender good to work right.
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Once again, not trying to bust your behind, but i could sure use a little clarification on a few things.
Are you saying the “Motorcraft ST82SB” is the recently installed part causing trouble? Or was this a second purchase, waiting to be installed?
Motorcraft is basically Ford’s private brand for retail parts. NAPA is my favorite parts store, but I don’t think they offer Motorcraft brand.
I searched for ST82SB and all results were for one of NAPA’s house brands, not Motorcraft. NAPA offers several price points on various parts, so you have to be careful. They offer premium quality parts at a premium price. Unfortunately, they also try to compete on price with the discount chains, and often have some lower price offerings of lower quality.
The ST82SB looks to be about in the middle of the quality/price spectrum. If you haven’t installed it yet, I’d return it and get the top of the line version, as Dave suggested. Sometimes you truly do get what you pay for, and this is one of those examples.
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Ok, the motorcraft was the second one and is working well….truck started great just now and warming up…thank you for all the info…definetly helps when I struggle with “what is wrong now?” stuff…all good for the moment…working on wiring for tailights and turn signals….not working correctly? but , no problem..it will be figured out…again I truly appreciate all the good advice...
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Here is a little tidbit of information for anyone driving a Ford with a fender mounted solenoid. If the solenoid unexpectedly sticks and the starter keeps cranking, pull the hood release button(if applicable) and jump out and open the hood. Then give the solenoid a few karate chops, this will usually unstick the solenoid(has never failed to work for me) and save the starter and getting a dead battery. If you are expecting the solenoid may stick, you could even carry some sort of probably soft faced hammer on the seat beside you.
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These mind-reading pills I purchased on eBay don’t seem to be working at all. I’m starting to think I got ripped off. I’m having the hardest time understanding you.
Once again, not trying to bust your behind, but i could sure use a little clarification on a few things.
Are you saying the “Motorcraft ST82SB” is the recently installed part causing trouble? Or was this a second purchase, waiting to be installed?
Motorcraft is basically Ford’s private brand for retail parts. NAPA is my favorite parts store, but I don’t think they offer Motorcraft brand.
I searched for ST82SB and all results were for one of NAPA’s house brands, not Motorcraft. NAPA offers several price points on various parts, so you have to be careful. They offer premium quality parts at a premium price. Unfortunately, they also try to compete on price with the discount chains, and often have some lower price offerings of lower quality.
The ST82SB looks to be about in the middle of the quality/price spectrum. If you haven’t installed it yet, I’d return it and get the top of the line version, as Dave suggested. Sometimes you truly do get what you pay for, and this is one of those examples.
Once again, not trying to bust your behind, but i could sure use a little clarification on a few things.
Are you saying the “Motorcraft ST82SB” is the recently installed part causing trouble? Or was this a second purchase, waiting to be installed?
Motorcraft is basically Ford’s private brand for retail parts. NAPA is my favorite parts store, but I don’t think they offer Motorcraft brand.
I searched for ST82SB and all results were for one of NAPA’s house brands, not Motorcraft. NAPA offers several price points on various parts, so you have to be careful. They offer premium quality parts at a premium price. Unfortunately, they also try to compete on price with the discount chains, and often have some lower price offerings of lower quality.
The ST82SB looks to be about in the middle of the quality/price spectrum. If you haven’t installed it yet, I’d return it and get the top of the line version, as Dave suggested. Sometimes you truly do get what you pay for, and this is one of those examples.
When I got mine at NAPA I asked for TOL and he said they were more money and did not care.
Turned out that was the only one he had in stock.
Dave ----