Two different types of spark plugs on 6.2?
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Two different types of spark plugs on 6.2?
Changed plugs on my 2019 f250 today and noticed after I was done that there are two types of plugs. Eight with blue stripes and a thin electrode and eight without the blue stripes and a fat electrode. Can't remember which ones were in which location but all the plugs I put in have the smaller thin electrode. Did I screw up and get the wrong plugs for half?
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one plug is marked CYFS 12NPG 9F and the other is 12F 9E but both have XP5363 stamped into the seating flange
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I thought they'd be a little cleaner with only 50k on them. There were two that were worse and had a bunch of white corrosion around the boot and plug. All the used plugs gapped the same which surprised me. I started it up and ran it a few minutes and it seemed to run a bit smoother. Won't take it out on the road until I get the broken coil replaced in the morning, don't trust the tape job to hold the power cord on.
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If you have the knack for searching (I do not) you can find a thread or two about a no start condition due to fouled lower plugs. Ford’s fix was to put hotter plugs in the lowers and run the oil level around the middle of the range on the dipstick as apposed to the top. It’s been a few years and that’s from memory so it’s probably not verbatim but you get the idea.
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If you have the knack for searching (I do not) you can find a thread or two about a no start condition due to fouled lower plugs. Ford’s fix was to put hotter plugs in the lowers and run the oil level around the middle of the range on the dipstick as apposed to the top. It’s been a few years and that’s from memory so it’s probably not verbatim but you get the idea.
Denny
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If you have the knack for searching (I do not) you can find a thread or two about a no start condition due to fouled lower plugs. Ford’s fix was to put hotter plugs in the lowers and run the oil level around the middle of the range on the dipstick as apposed to the top. It’s been a few years and that’s from memory so it’s probably not verbatim but you get the idea.
Denny
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Hello.
I just discovered this also on my '17 F-250, 130K, I bought it with 75K... Working on it last night, I was surprised to find two different type plugs in it... I can't find anything specific relating to two types of replacement plugs, I have 16 NGK iridium in stock so that's what going in... I have found some articles about plug brands, stating stick with Motorcraft... But honestly I think that's some up selling from Ford company?? But who knows, maybe it's a valid claim?? I have had good luck with NGK in everything I own with a gas engine... so I guess we will find out??.
I just discovered this also on my '17 F-250, 130K, I bought it with 75K... Working on it last night, I was surprised to find two different type plugs in it... I can't find anything specific relating to two types of replacement plugs, I have 16 NGK iridium in stock so that's what going in... I have found some articles about plug brands, stating stick with Motorcraft... But honestly I think that's some up selling from Ford company?? But who knows, maybe it's a valid claim?? I have had good luck with NGK in everything I own with a gas engine... so I guess we will find out??.
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Ok, the reason why they are different is when they build the vehicle, they use two different kinds of plugs because the spark polarity is different or they felt they could go a bit cheaper with one of the plugs. The factory plugs would be "single platinum" This was common on waste spark system before COP (like my older vehicles below, where they had one coil fire two plugs but different polarity). That is probably how these twin coils work. $1-$2 over 100K vehicles is a bit of cash saved. The thicker one may have platinum on the electrode.
Also, that is likely an autolite plug- https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...363/10500916-p
The crimp is a bit different from NGK.
AutoLite XP5363 IRIDIUM plug. They may have a slight variation for the application.
It is possible also they had two suppliers (Autolite and NGK for different years or production jobs). Both are probably fine.
Also, that is likely an autolite plug- https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...363/10500916-p
The crimp is a bit different from NGK.
AutoLite XP5363 IRIDIUM plug. They may have a slight variation for the application.
It is possible also they had two suppliers (Autolite and NGK for different years or production jobs). Both are probably fine.
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I changed mine at 100k and didn't look at the old plugs. To tell you the truth, after changing plugs from above and below, I didn't have the slightest desire, so they went in the trash.
Somehow, it seems that it wouldn't make any difference, at least to me, because the COP is firing both at the same time, so either one or both are making it happen in the combustion chamber. The only thing that might matter is if there is a drastic difference between the plug's resistance, which might make the COP go bad sooner. I have replaced one COP that began arcing. The mechanic didn't say anything more, and that was when I had a ticking sound under the hood and I took it to him thinking about timing chains, which it turned out .that my problem was that COP and I needed to go back to 5 weight synthetic oil.
It's interesting that Ford would put two different plugs in. I put all the same in, and will the next time. I never thought about polarity. I don't believe it is polarity, just needs to be a more powerful or resilient COP to fire both plugs. The two plug design makes some sense to me about having a more complete combustion. If it is indeed something to do with polarity, it must be some garbage they did for the computer control of the engine, and I wouldn't have the slightest idea why. Some super duper computer engineer at Ford would need to explain that one, to me, using crayons and simple words.
Somehow, it seems that it wouldn't make any difference, at least to me, because the COP is firing both at the same time, so either one or both are making it happen in the combustion chamber. The only thing that might matter is if there is a drastic difference between the plug's resistance, which might make the COP go bad sooner. I have replaced one COP that began arcing. The mechanic didn't say anything more, and that was when I had a ticking sound under the hood and I took it to him thinking about timing chains, which it turned out .that my problem was that COP and I needed to go back to 5 weight synthetic oil.
It's interesting that Ford would put two different plugs in. I put all the same in, and will the next time. I never thought about polarity. I don't believe it is polarity, just needs to be a more powerful or resilient COP to fire both plugs. The two plug design makes some sense to me about having a more complete combustion. If it is indeed something to do with polarity, it must be some garbage they did for the computer control of the engine, and I wouldn't have the slightest idea why. Some super duper computer engineer at Ford would need to explain that one, to me, using crayons and simple words.
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I changed mine at 100k and didn't look at the old plugs. To tell you the truth, after changing plugs from above and below, I didn't have the slightest desire, so they went in the trash.
Somehow, it seems that it wouldn't make any difference, at least to me, because the COP is firing both at the same time, so either one or both are making it happen in the combustion chamber. The only thing that might matter is if there is a drastic difference between the plug's resistance, which might make the COP go bad sooner. I have replaced one COP that began arcing. The mechanic didn't say anything more, and that was when I had a ticking sound under the hood and I took it to him thinking about timing chains, which it turned out .that my problem was that COP and I needed to go back to 5 weight synthetic oil.
It's interesting that Ford would put two different plugs in. I put all the same in, and will the next time. I never thought about polarity. I don't believe it is polarity, just needs to be a more powerful or resilient COP to fire both plugs. The two plug design makes some sense to me about having a more complete combustion. If it is indeed something to do with polarity, it must be some garbage they did for the computer control of the engine, and I wouldn't have the slightest idea why. Some super duper computer engineer at Ford would need to explain that one, to me, using crayons and simple words.
Somehow, it seems that it wouldn't make any difference, at least to me, because the COP is firing both at the same time, so either one or both are making it happen in the combustion chamber. The only thing that might matter is if there is a drastic difference between the plug's resistance, which might make the COP go bad sooner. I have replaced one COP that began arcing. The mechanic didn't say anything more, and that was when I had a ticking sound under the hood and I took it to him thinking about timing chains, which it turned out .that my problem was that COP and I needed to go back to 5 weight synthetic oil.
It's interesting that Ford would put two different plugs in. I put all the same in, and will the next time. I never thought about polarity. I don't believe it is polarity, just needs to be a more powerful or resilient COP to fire both plugs. The two plug design makes some sense to me about having a more complete combustion. If it is indeed something to do with polarity, it must be some garbage they did for the computer control of the engine, and I wouldn't have the slightest idea why. Some super duper computer engineer at Ford would need to explain that one, to me, using crayons and simple words.
And yes, older Fords came from the factory with different suffixed plugs (platinum on the tip or electrode). Before they switched to coil on plug, one coil pack controlled two plugs, and they were wired in with different polarity. Both plugs would fire at the same time.
The replacements were always the same "double platinum" plug. That is what a tech told me long ago, FWIW. Seems this setup also has one coil and 2 plugs...