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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 06:54 PM
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New axle information

Does anymore know about this new 11.6" axle in the high capacity package? Maker? Specs?

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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 07:10 PM
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Does anymore know about this new 11.6" axle in the high capacity package? Maker? Specs?

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Undoubtedly Dana Spicer. Probably the M275 housing with a larger ring gear.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 08:15 PM
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m275 is only 4yr old. how could it already be maxed out and need a helping hand ?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 05:00 AM
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There is nothing on the Dana site for an M290 which is the metric number for an 11.6" gear. I also looked for a larger sterling and came up blank as well.

The M275 held the 7.3 just fine but seem to have issues with the 6.7. I wonder if that is the reason. AAM builds 11.5+ for the Ram to hold 1000+ lb/ft of torque.....Ford seems to be following suit.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
There is nothing on the Dana site for an M290 which is the metric number for an 11.6" gear. I also looked for a larger sterling and came up blank as well.

The M275 held the 7.3 just fine but seem to have issues with the 6.7. I wonder if that is the reason. AAM builds 11.5+ for the Ram to hold 1000+ lb/ft of torque.....Ford seems to be following suit.

What issues did the M275 have with the 6.7L? And you can't count the defect of collapsing tubes at the spring perches...That was obviously a manufacturing/design flaw that only affected a small production run.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 06:59 AM
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What issues did the M275 have with the 6.7L? And you can't count the defect of collapsing tubes at the spring perches...That was obviously a manufacturing/design flaw that only affected a small production run.
Think its typo then?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
Think its typo then?
With as many typos that Ford has, I wouldn’t be surprised. But, I know the M275 in the 22’s was derated already, at least the ones in the 250’s are considering the 350’s had the same axle but higher limits. Of course though, they did have that bad run of Dana’s that drew a lot of attention… so I could also see this as an actual change… now they can say they have an all new axle design…

It’s also interesting that they seem to be blurring the lines even more with the 250 vs 350. In the right configuration they were already the exact same, but with a paper derate on the 250.

If it’s true, I’m curious to see what this new axle is all about too though!
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by chadstickpoindexter
With as many typos that Ford has, I wouldn’t be surprised. But, I know the M275 in the 22’s was derated already, at least the ones in the 250’s are considering the 350’s had the same axle but higher limits. Of course though, they did have that bad run of Dana’s that drew a lot of attention… so I could also see this as an actual change… now they can say they have an all new axle design…

It’s also interesting that they seem to be blurring the lines even more with the 250 vs 350. In the right configuration they were already the exact same, but with a paper derate on the 250.

If it’s true, I’m curious to see what this new axle is all about too though!

True on the typos.... With Ford getting rid of their brochure and media folks its hard to get anything from their crappy website. No towing data, no gcvw data, nothing other then "hay were great, buy one"....
 
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Originally Posted by chadstickpoindexter

If it’s true, I’m curious to see what this new axle is all about too though!
this is the new axle. looks the same as the old axle. maybe it has .5" bigger ring gear


 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 09:31 AM
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I dont understand why the Dana 80 went away. There was an article in the early 2000s comparing the AAM 11.5" to the Dana 80. Basically the Dana 80 was rated for 18,000lbs by Dana and Ford derated it when they put it in their trucks. The AAM 11.5" was a good rear also but the consensus of the article was they they are extremely similar in every way as far as what they can handle.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 09:39 AM
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Glad I have an overbuilt AAM 11.5 in my pickup. Good to know there is plenty of reserve. It’s all about the rear when towing. The front should allow independent articulation for a better on road experience.

best of both worlds………..


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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 10:11 AM
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So based upon Dana-Spicer numbers, M275 is 10.8" so an 11.6" would be 290. So an M290....none of which is published yet.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
So based upon Dana-Spicer numbers, M275 is 10.8" so an 11.6" would be 290. So an M290....none of which is published yet.
you can screenshot the videos that have been put out so far. ive not seen any new rear housing. looks to be just new ring gear in the current housing
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
you can screenshot the videos that have been put out so far. ive not seen any new rear housing. looks to be just new ring gear in the current housing
Kinda makes you wonder if Dana will ever make a trutrac setup for it if its fills the inside with more gears. I would still think they would have to rename it since their others are based on ring size.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 01:29 PM
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All I know is, there’s plenty of ‘99-‘16 trucks pulling heavy every day with a Sterling 10.5 doing just fine. And how many of them are hopped up deleted and tuned diesels?
 
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