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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 02:35 AM
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Regen and oil filter

I finally sold my 05 F-250 6.0 and upgraded to a 2016 F-350 6.7 PSD and what a difference. I do have two questions. 1. Is it necessary to add the ability to do manual regens with the Forscan, or will the factory ones be sufficient. I do have a 34 foot travel trailer that I will be towing quite a bit this summer around the nort north wester U.S.. 2. I have seen a lot of people are installing the Amsoil bypass oil fitter systems on their trucks. Is this really a necessity and, will that void any warranty? Just don't want to waste a bunch of money if I don't have too. Thanks
 
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If Ford thought it was necessary for us to control regens, they would have kept the option enabled. The fact that they have even the DPF % screen disabled from the get go shows you that the regen process is something they want to be invisible and in the background. Basically, they want you to drive it like a gasser. That said, I have both enabled with Forscan but strictly for curiosity. I almost wish it wasn't possible to watch the % because I spend way too much time getting irritated when it starts a regen as I pull into my driveway. (One of my truck's favorite tricks...) I've never used the manual regen option despite having it enabled. Why waste fuel regening while stationary when it will regen while you drive anyways? Again, I turned it on because I could but would be fine without the option. So, long story short... if you want to turn them on just "because" then go for it. However, if you're doing it because you think it's necessary, it's really not. The truck will handle things just fine on its own... On the oil filter, I would offer the same advice. The $14 Motorcraft (made by Purolator) filter found on Amazon is quite sufficient...

Anyways, congrats on the new to you truck! Post up some pics of it when you get it hooked up to your RV...
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 07:01 AM
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I have the ability in mine to turn off auto regen. I get a screen prompt and then I decide whether to do the regen or not.

I do have the soot filter % enabled on mine.

I also have a banks idash that will indicate when that active regen occurs and when it is complete.

My reasoning is I dont want it to regen when I am completing my trip and then all the un-burnt fuel is wasted and ends up in the crankcase. I would rather the regen be as efficent as possible and do the regen on the open hwy at 50-60 mph, which is typical of my travels locally.

I have found, even with my 2020, that if I get the egts in the 800's while towing it will passively regen and you won't see an active one. Depending upon your TT you may get there in some situations and that may help keeping these active ones from becoming a frequent occurrence.

it is true that ford and others want it to be seamless and many have no idea that this is happening in the background so it is your choice to have knowledge of what is going on or to just ignore it.

If there is a problem, the truck will tell you. One of the messages you would get would be drive to clean exhaust filter. This message would be prompted if you have a lot of low speed or in town driving consistently and it needs to regen but you either stop it in progress or the temps don't get hot enough to activate.

Generally it is a not issue, your choice.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 11:06 AM
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I'm well over 350,000 miles on 6.7L engines I've seen the "Drive to CLean" message twice in all those miles. I've never done a manual regen. So in general I think the Ford computers take care of the issue and drivers don't really need to pay much attention to it.

In the 2011 trucks Ford Used to pop up a message that an Active Regen was starting. With my 2020 truck, you never see any message at all.

Same for the oil. I use Motorcraft filters and change the oil when the Oil Life Monitor tells me to. On my earlier 6.7L engines. I pulled oil samples at 5,000 6,000 and 7,500 and 9,000 miles. Samples always came back good. So I started to trust the computers and just change when it prompts
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 11:42 AM
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I have 212,000 miles on my all stock 6.7PSD using Motorcraft oil filters and the Amzoil bypass filter is not required using normal OCI IMO. It is nice to have your display screen updated to show DPF % full so you have an idea when a regen is going to occurr. The '11-'16 Super Duty's do display a quick message when the truck is going into regen.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 12:03 PM
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I 5have a 15 and I to a 34' 5th wheel and been coast to coast twice. I only use Motorcraft oil and filters. I don't want to take any chances with my truck buy buying cheaper anything. I have never had a problem with the DPF, however the DEF heater went out and the DEF nozzle had to be replaced. If you still have the stock heater than you to will need to change that sooner or later. Also you will want to change the CAC pipe with one from this thread.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...t-install.html
 
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Thanks for the info.
 
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The first few oil changes went to 5k miles then I went to the truck truck telling me when to change which is about 7k miles or so. The newer models go out even further.

I too, watch my DPF soot level percentage on the truck and the my Bank iDash. I like knowing when the truck will or may go into an active regen. Mine have gone out to 500 miles but have some lower due to more stop and go driving. That's all daily driving. I'm lucky I have hills to climb to keep my regen cycle healthy and the components as well.

I also only recommend Motorcraft filters, especially fuel filters. I did use the first of a three pack of Donaldson oil filters. I've been using MC 10w30 only. My UOAs have always come back good.

I installed a Filtration Solutions FS2500 bypass filter but by no means say that it's absolutely necessary though. I'm just overkill minded.

Welcome to the 6.7 club. Pics are nice.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Stroker 6.0 fan
I finally sold my 05 F-250 6.0 and upgraded to a 2016 F-350 6.7 PSD and what a difference. I do have two questions. 1. Is it necessary to add the ability to do manual regens with the Forscan, or will the factory ones be sufficient. I do have a 34 foot travel trailer that I will be towing quite a bit this summer around the nort north wester U.S.. 2. I have seen a lot of people are installing the Amsoil bypass oil fitter systems on their trucks. Is this really a necessity and, will that void any warranty? Just don't want to waste a bunch of money if I don't have too. Thanks
Nope, no need for manual regen. Regen is based on pressure across the DPF, and will occur every 500 miles, or as needed. When towing, you'll likely find more miles between regen because you build up less soot with the higher EGT. Look up "passive regen".
If you want a bypass system, you can certainly do better than the Amsoil system, and for a lot less.
Do you need bypass? No, not at all. Many high mile 6.7's out there running cheapest oil and Motorcraft filters.
Can bypass help? Depends on your goals. Bypass filtration and used oil analysis can extend your oil change intervals. if you are going to follow the OLM or change at 5 or 6 thousand, bypass isn't going to give you distinct advantage. You can keep contamination down through changes or filtration...Bypass allows longer change intervals by keeping contamination low through fine filtration.
A cheaper bypass system can be assembled using the appropriate filter head and a fine filter from several manufacturers.
Purolator S80012 or equivalent head, Luberfiner LFP777XL, AC P940F, Baldwin B7577. Tee off the oil pressure sender port to the "in" side of the head, route the "out" side to the oil fill cap using a replacement cap with fitting.
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do you have an extended warranty on your 2016?

do you know your build date? got out 5 yrs from that date and what do you get?

 
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