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Before we get into this, yes i know a diesels main purpose is to work, thats their bread and butter I know, im a youngin and I want a diesel pickup. Im considering buying a 2014 6.7, or newer model 6.0. Im aware of the costs of ownership, and the maintence involved with it and im fine with it because i like my vehicles to be the best they can be. If i own a 6.7 it may see some pulling with a landscaping trailer or a car hauler with a single cab 6.0 on it back and forth to the truck but other than that it will daily driven about 30 minutes to and from work and driven most likely all day long on the weekends. I have heard good things about them, and im looking for a nice comfortable sharp looking truck. Any issues that would be benficial for me to know before jumping the gun? If i buy one its going to either be already deleted or will be deleted shortly after i buy it, so assume that we are talking about a deleted tuned 6.7
Not really sure what you are asking. Sounds like you want a truck with the 6.7. I say buy it. There really are not any issues with how you are going to use it.
I bought a 6.7 PSD and came out of a performance sedan and this F250 is now my daily driver. I do 40,000 per year. So lot's of highway use but also will be towing a Travel Trailer on the weekends that weighs 10,000 lbs.
Im just curious if I buy one, for the soul purpose as being daily driven is it viable. Im in the market for a 2012 to 2016 super duty, I love the new look of the newer body style but its out of my price range for a higher trim package truck. I dont know much about 6.7 motors, my experience is with the 6.0s and that was my first consideration but im looking for a low mile truck since it will be daily driven and the low mile 6.0s go for a good bit and if im gonna pay that much I may as well go newer and buy a 6.7 and have a nicer looking truck all around. We wont talk about 6.4s...not even a consideration. My main concern is, is it a good daily driver?
Here's a list to get you started with what you can expect.
Known Issues:
- 2011's had valve seat issues
- 2011-2012 had ceramic bearing issue in the turbo (early wear/failure)
- 2011-2014 had small turbo issues (little exhaust brake support)
- 2011-2016 have random vibration issues that cannot be tracked down. Test drive before you buy.
- 2015+ got bigger turbo, better exhaust brake effect
- All 6.7 have oil type issues. Must be Ford approved CK-4 or CJ-4 (no approval necessary). Research your oil before you use.
Maintenance: 6.7L Power Stroke Maintenance Schedule & Service Information
- Oil changes require 13 quarts of oil every 5,000-10,000 miles. This equates to $45-$120 each oil change (dino vs synthetic; DIY vs dealer)
- Fuel filters (x2) require change every 15,000-22,500 miles (that's another $60 every 3 oil changes)
- Transmission service @ 150,000 miles (if you buy an older truck, you're already there)
- Air filter every 45,000 miles ($20-$30)
- Transfer case fluid replace every 60,000-150,000 miles
Fuel costs: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/savemoney.jsp
- My mpg is ~13 city/~18 hwy. Diesel is ~$2.40/gal presently. Every year @ 15,000 miles per year you can expect to spend around $3000/yr on fuel
Additives:
- Many people recommend to use some type of fuel additive to increase lubricity and cetane (better gas mileage) while aiding water removal and preventing gelling. Do your research here too. No emulsifiers.
Thats what i was looking for, the price of ownership. Im looking at a 2014 F250 crew, fully deleted, H&S tuner, straight pipe of course and 105k miles. Seemingly maintained very well, cosmetically its in excellent condition. Im weary of the newer super dutys because of the rap 6.4s of gotten. How does the trans hold up to being tuned? Ill most likely modify being that I family in the diesel performance bussiness and thats the field im wanting to be in. Whats the limits on these trucks?
When I tuned my Audi I got answers to questions like limits on the DSG's, etc from the tuners themselves. Anyone reputable will know the limits of the clutches because they should be tuning their engines to remain within safe limits.
We all know these Super Duty's are way over built and can handle much more than what they are rated or certified for.
Here's a list to get you started with what you can expect.
Known Issues:
- 2011's had valve seat issues
- 2011-2012 had ceramic bearing issue in the turbo (early wear/failure)
- 2011-2014 had small turbo issues (little exhaust brake support)
- 2011-2016 have random vibration issues that cannot be tracked down. Test drive before you buy.
- 2015+ got bigger turbo, better exhaust brake effect
- All 6.7 have oil type issues. Must be Ford approved CK-4 or CJ-4 (no approval necessary). Research your oil before you use.
Maintenance: 6.7L Power Stroke Maintenance Schedule & Service Information
- Oil changes require 13 quarts of oil every 5,000-10,000 miles. This equates to $45-$120 each oil change (dino vs synthetic; DIY vs dealer)
- Fuel filters (x2) require change every 15,000-22,500 miles (that's another $60 every 3 oil changes)
- Transmission service @ 150,000 miles (if you buy an older truck, you're already there)
- Air filter every 45,000 miles ($20-$30)
- Transfer case fluid replace every 60,000-150,000 miles
Fuel costs: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/savemoney.jsp
- My mpg is ~13 city/~18 hwy. Diesel is ~$2.40/gal presently. Every year @ 15,000 miles per year you can expect to spend around $3000/yr on fuel
Additives:
- Many people recommend to use some type of fuel additive to increase lubricity and cetane (better gas mileage) while aiding water removal and preventing gelling. Do your research here too. No emulsifiers.
Nice list. A couple other things to keep in the back of your head on the 11-16's - primary radiator leaks on some trucks, turbo coolant line leak (hard to diagnose since it's not visible without a bore scope, and weak primary fuel filter housing.
. Ill most likely modify being that I family in the diesel performance bussiness and thats the field im wanting to be in. Whats the limits on these trucks?
Truck will work fine for a daily driver if that's what you want it to be. Keep an eye on the DPF level and drive it long enough to burn things out, but with 30 minute drives each way daily and lots of weekend miles, that doesn't sound like it will be a problem.
Now if you're wanting to be in the diesel performance business, keep in mind that the more computers and emissions stuff that goes into these vehicle, and the more they cost new, the fewer folks you will have willing to spend money on doing much to them performance wise. That means if you're young and it will be many years before you really get into this, how many 6.0's are going to be left on the road that people are wanting programmers for? Sounds like you might need to cut your teeth on the 6.7 to help you out down the road too.
In line with that, you might want to buy a non-deleted truck so you can do the delete yourself to get you started off. Hands on with your own vehicle is a great way to learn about things.
Even deleted, soot is the enemy as it can shorten the life of turbos and motor oil. Cetane boosters reduce soot as do some niche additives like AR6200 and Enerburn.
Me too. I have 43,000 on my 2015 and had 29,000 on my 2011 when I traded it. Never towed anything with either. Diesel works fine. 9 mile one way trip to work for me each day. We travel some on the weekends and this is such a great road vehicle with my two little dogs, little wife, and older cat along. Comfort in the cab and the ride is good.
Some people will comment that you should just buy a F150 and forget the SD line if you are not going to use it. I don't agree with this. Not a fan of the F150 looks. I like a big truck and don't mind the extra costs of a diesel. Have a 125,000 mile, 8 year ESP plan to allow my Ford dealer to fix anything that is broken but both trucks have been solid.
The meter says that I am averaging 17.3MPG and I can't remember the last time that I reset the meter.
I am not unlike you and ended up with a '14 F250. I love it. It does everything I want it to do, but isn't a daily workhorse as my life doesn't require it.
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