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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 06:08 PM
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460 transmission not shure what to use

I have a 1978 f250 that had a six cylinder in it and I am puting a 460 in it but I don't know what to get for a transmission the six cylinder had a four speed manual but I'm not shure what I need. I still want a manual but not shure on the make.
 

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First, welcome to FTE. Second, we all here LOVE pictures. Feel free to show off your dentside truck no matter how pretty or ugly she may be. And third, look for a ZF5 from a '87 to '97 F250/350/450. Make sure it was bolted to a 460, although I have heard that the diesel models will work too. There are plenty of threads here that go into detail of the swap. If a ZF5 is out of your budget, look for an NP435 or T18. Both are granny 4 speeds, the ZF5 is considered a granny 4 speed with OD. Hope this helps ya.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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Does it matter if it is a 4x4 ? Also isn't the clutch linkage totally different then?
 
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Bell housings from 351/400 fit a 460
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 03:39 PM
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All 1968/82 460's came with the C6.

1983 was the first year the 460 was available w/a M/T & 4WD

All: 1983 F250/350 6.9L Diesel & 460; 1984/96 F150/350 & Bronco; 1997 F250 H/D & F350 have a hydraulic clutch.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 07:59 PM
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It would help to know what your current transmission is. If it is a NP435 it has a removable bell housing and is tough enough for the 460. You could potentially re-use the transmission with new bellhousing.

https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledg.../manual/np435/
 
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Old Apr 29, 2017 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue and White
It would help to know what your current transmission is. If it is a NP435 it has a removable bell housing and is tough enough for the 460. You could potentially re-use the transmission with new bellhousing.

https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledg.../manual/np435/

i have what what I believe to be a 73 Lincoln 460 I bought back in the day and rebuilt it now I am trying to put it in a 78 f250 4x4that had a 306 in it that went bad and I don't have any trans parts or anything I plan to use it for hauling and some fun. I have never done a swap like this and I feel lost.
You guys have been clearing a lot up for me but I'm still not shure which trans will best suit me yet or where to find one.

Thise site is awsome!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2017 | 07:30 AM
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OK... no transmission now. The NP235 is a good choice. It is tough and can handle the power/torque of the 460, was used a lot on Ford PU's and is readily available from yards and several rebuilders. It can be retro-fitted with mostly factory hardware (bell housing linkage ect.).

On the NP435, 1'st is a creeper gear for crossing rough ground slowly or to help get moving when very heavy. In day to day driving, you start in 2'nd and it is functionally a 3 speed. Top gear is 1:1.

The five speed transmissions mentioned have overdrive which is nice but they are harder to find. Some folks have adapted later Dodge 5 speeds. The Tremtec TKO new 5 speed is nice also and expensive.

The NP435 would be straight forward and cost effective with minimum engineering/fabrication. The 5 speed options are more involved and can get quite costly though having overdrive is really nice.
 
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As far as the clutch linkage goes:
NP435 & T18 have mechanical linkages


ZF5 uses a hydraulic clutch


Is the ZF5 worth the mods to your truck? That depends on the truck usage and who you talk too.
 
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Transmission?

Originally Posted by Blue and White
OK... no transmission now. The NP235 is a good choice. It is tough and can handle the power/torque of the 460, was used a lot on Ford PU's and is readily available from yards and several rebuilders. It can be retro-fitted with mostly factory hardware (bell housing linkage ect.).

On the NP435, 1'st is a creeper gear for crossing rough ground slowly or to help get moving when very heavy. In day to day driving, you start in 2'nd and it is functionally a 3 speed. Top gear is 1:1.

The five speed transmissions mentioned have overdrive which is nice but they are harder to find. Some folks have adapted later Dodge 5 speeds. The Tremtec TKO new 5 speed is nice also and expensive.

The NP435 would be straight forward and cost effective with minimum engineering/fabrication. The 5 speed options are more involved and can get quite costly though having overdrive is really nice.
i have the transmision off the six cylinder that looks like the np435 I think how can a person tell if there is no tag on it. Just a case number. And if it is right do I need to modify it
 
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Old May 7, 2017 | 06:22 PM
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See a transmission identification guide link. That should help make sure you know what you have.

If it is a NP235, the major change would be a new bellhousing to mate it with the 460. The bellhousing is bolt on and the 460 shares the same engine bolt pattern as the 351M and 400 so a correct housing should not be too hard to find.

Manual Transmission Identification Guide - FORDification.com
 
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