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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 11:07 PM
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2012 vs 2013 ecoboost questions

a coworker is looking at getting a used f150 ecoboost, & has located a 2012 with 60K on it for 27500: during his research, he's found a lot of negativity with regards to the issues with the fuel system in the '12's & is thinking he may end up getting a 13 instead.

anyone have any information regarding the fuel system issues with the 12's?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 11:30 PM
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I can't recall ever reading about any kind of chronic fuel system issues. I have had a 2012 Ecoboost since new. I'd be kind of surprised if there was even a difference in the fuel system between 2012 and 2013.

There is a lot of moaning by people that own other types of vehicles that had problems with high pressure fuel pumps, and then they speculate why the Ecoboost will be a disaster. That kind of fear mongering clutters the boards but isn't our reality.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 02:03 PM
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I have been looking at 2011 ecoboosts, is there any issues with those that I need to consider?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 03:32 PM
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There are some differences -- I know the BOV system is different, solely because I have to specify what year I have to buy an aftermarket intercooler. And the split is between '12/'13.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:01 PM
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But is there a difference of fuel system like asked?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 10:01 PM
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I don't have that knowledge. I wouldn't be surprised if there were further differences, especially with my knowledge of how the 7.3L evolved over a few years.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 08:25 AM
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Being a member of the EcoBoost forum, I have seen a lot on this.

Essentially, clifs version, trucks produced before 02-2012 had a potential issue with condensation in the turbo system during high humidity, rainy times.
This would build up, and, when flooring it to pass someone, the moisture would dump into the system, causing an almost stalling problem. Apparently, after this time, Ford fixed it. Check the VIN against the mfr date to see. If before this date, check to see if it was addressed. It was, apparently, not a universal issue, but enough cases to warrant notice.

Aside from that, this is a pretty bulletproof motor. I have a 2014 and it's deceptively fast, you just don't hear it moving like a 5.0 V8, but it's quicker 0-60 and tows more, and I get 18+ on the freeway.

So I like it.

Hope this helps
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 06:13 PM
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'13's have slightly larger turbos.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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That condensation problem persisted way after Feb 2012.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2016 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by KJ Smith
'13's have slightly larger turbos.
This is an excellent piece of info. Do you have a link for more detail on this? I was looking hard at some aftermarket turbos, so this may impact my decision.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2016 | 01:25 PM
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Izzy,

Both trucks use the same family of Borg Warner K03 turbos. 2011-2012 had a 48 mm compressor wheel with blow-off valve integrated into the turbo housing. Starting in 2013 model year the compressor wheel grew to 51 mm and there is only a single BOV located after the intercooler. Logically the 2013 should make a bit more power but oddly enough it does not, even with a tune.

The Full Race "stock placement" turbos are 54 mm wheel. The most you will pick up is +30 RWHP. The Leading Edge Tuning turbos have 58 mm wheel and make about +70 RWHP.
 
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Originally Posted by QwkTrip
Izzy,

Both trucks use the same family of Borg Warner K03 turbos. 2011-2012 had a 48 mm compressor wheel with blow-off valve integrated into the turbo housing. Starting in 2013 model year the compressor wheel grew to 51 mm and there is only a single BOV located after the intercooler. Logically the 2013 should make a bit more power but oddly enough it does not, even with a tune.

The Full Race "stock placement" turbos are 54 mm wheel. The most you will pick up is +30 RWHP. The Leading Edge Tuning turbos have 58 mm wheel and make about +70 RWHP.
...assuming you have enough fueling for the larger turbos. Should I take on the turbo swap, it will be the set that is big enough for the stock injectors. I don't care to start messing with the fuel system. Did that on my diesel, and I actually ended up over-fueling for the turbo I had. It worked, but I could've benefited from more air.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:46 PM
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The LET turbos were made to peak out the stock fuel pump. It's a matched set up.
You just need to call LET and talk it through. They have all the info you need on both options.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 08:55 PM
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It will be interesting to see what Ford has done to the '17 Raptor engine.


That should give us an idea of what can be done.
 
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Yep -- will definitely do that when the time comes.
 
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