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Old May 12, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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slight shake at idle, comes and goes?

i had started to notice that at idle my truck shakes a little, kind of like a miss, but the motor does not change , and the RPMs do not change. the truck runs and drives fine. just that little stumble at idle. it does not do it all the time. I have changed the fuel filter, run 3 tanks of DK gray bottle. with no help. where should i start looking?
 
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Old May 12, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shark1979
i had started to notice that at idle my truck shakes a little, kind of like a miss, but the motor does not change , and the RPMs do not change. the truck runs and drives fine. just that little stumble at idle. it does not do it all the time. I have changed the fuel filter, run 3 tanks of DK gray bottle. with no help. where should i start looking?
Check the connections to your valve covers. The external ones are easy to see, but the most common disconnect is under the valve cover. The connection goes through the gasket with a connector on either side. The UVCH (Under valve cover harness) likes to wiggle free. It will throw a code, but it can cause a rough idle (and eventually rough runing) as the connection gets looser. When you check it, check for a burnt pin as well.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by A/Ox4
Check the connections to your valve covers. The external ones are easy to see, but the most common disconnect is under the valve cover. The connection goes through the gasket with a connector on either side. The UVCH (Under valve cover harness) likes to wiggle free. It will throw a code, but it can cause a rough idle (and eventually rough runing) as the connection gets looser. When you check it, check for a burnt pin as well.
When I start my van it idles smoothly. After a drive the motor shakes a little.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:26 AM
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Check Fuel, Low-, and High-Pressure Oil pressures.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 04:48 AM
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Could it be the gray cps? I think so, others experience the same. Mine does it slightly as well.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 11:05 AM
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Would a CCT with AE help find a possible injector not performing during this idle shake?
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Could it be the gray cps? I think so, others experience the same. Mine does it slightly as well.
Very likely. Sounds like a common "Ford gray CPS" issue.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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Would a CCT with AE help find a possible injector not performing during this idle shake?
Possibly... but it can lead to ghost codes as well depending on cps...
In the data grid... once the motor is at full operating temp... check off all 8 rotational velocity boxes... put it in drive... and just hold your foot on the break...

0.0-0.5 is what you want... higher numbers on any one cylinder CAN be related to injector problems... but say in TXtinct's case... the perdel readings were crazy bad on #3... changed out injector... absolutely zero change in readings... reason being... no compression on #3...

Just an example... but yes it can be a wonderful troubleshooting aid...
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin@DP-Tuner
Very likely. Sounds like a common "Ford gray CPS" issue.
I have the same issue the original poster is describing.

OP, try unplugging your ICP sensor, bet the shake at idle goes away.

Don't bother replacing your ICP sensor, because it will still happen with a new sensor (at least in my case).

I have tried the grey CPS, dark blue CPS, an the Borg Warner original black spec'd CPS. No change at all.

Truck is currently at a mechanic for diagnosis. Will let you know what they find.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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I've chased this before. When the truck is cold, the ICP is higher and the SOI is earlier. As the oil warms up, every little nuance in the truck can have an effect on how smooth the idle is... right down to the brand of oil you use. When was your last oil change?

 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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I'm having the same problem and it's driving me nuts. Didn't notice a vibration until I changed the HPOP to T500. First day blew out ICP, pulled plug to ICP idle smoothed right out. After changing ICP only lasted one day. Vibration is back. could it be a problem with to much oit pressure. No gauge nor do I have a scan tool. Don't know why the ICP goes so fast. Can't keep changing that $$$$$.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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What about the IPR?

Mine does it as well with gray CPS. I have changed all the injector o-rings as well as fuel bowl rebuild, IPR o-rings, 50 cent mod, the whole deal. I haven't tried unplugging the ICP. I believe like Tug mentions, unplugging the ICP raises the pressure some which will make a weak injector act "right" again.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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well here is some more info, it is not giving me any codes. the oil was changed 2 months ago. rotella 15-40w. fuel psi is 65psi. i have a scan gauge, is there anything else you think i should check?
 
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Air filter clean?
 
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Old May 14, 2013 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by shark1979
well here is some more info, it is not giving me any codes. the oil was changed 2 months ago. rotella 15-40w. fuel psi is 65psi. i have a scan gauge, is there anything else you think i should check?
Unless I missed it, which CPS are you running?
 
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