Truck broke down with 4 DTC's present
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10-09-2010, 09:37 PM
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The guys at this shop only work on PSD's. If you've ever heard of Powerstroke Specialty from powerstrokehelp.com, they're the same thing and been doing it for a LONG time. But anyways, I mentioned the chaffing to them, and they said they were gonna check everything that the codes bring up. They're extremely thorough, not one of those shops that gets it working enough to get it out of their hair.
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I don't really know anything about him. I was just saying they're very experienced. They do repairs and salvage on Super Duties only, and mostly just diesels.
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10-10-2010, 06:31 AM
This shop (as well as the Ford dealerships) are in business to make money. Some shops will push the limits of honesty and some will replace parts that they do not need to because they do not have the knowledge or access to the proper diagnostic equipment. This applies to independent shops as well as Ford dealerships. I am not saying this shop is not good, they may have a great success rate. However, if they are replacing a large number of PCM's, then I would wonder about ONE of the statements above.
I sincerely doubt that this shop sees so many more 6.0L diesel trucks that they would have a better feel for the failure rate of PCM's than cheezit ..... maybe, but I doubt it. I hope you do not end up w/ a big bill (especially if it is w/ parts you may not have needed). That is a big reason this forum exists - to help folks troubleshoot on their own to help keep costs down. It is a HUGE advantage to have Techs that share information with us with ZERO desire for personal gain. When he says that the troubleshooting process indicates a PCM issue, but most likely it is a vref short, I personally would believe him
I certainly may be off base w/ this shop, but most techs will tell you that the videos and information contains a few errors on the 6.0L. As a motivated businessman, I seriously doubt that he is paying for a shop full of certified techs with all of the Ford diagnostic equipment, but if he is I do not doubt you will get your problem fixed. I sincerely hope it is at a reasonable cost.
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I really am not trying to argue (so please do not take it that way), but this statement bothers me. I would bet money that Cheezit (as a certified Ford Tech) is as experienced (or more) as the folks you are going to. Most likely he has the benefit of access to Ford specific training, failure rate data, and diagnostic equipment that these folks do not - since they are not Ford employed. Also, cheezit (and others here) are offering advice for free - so no bias towards making money. To me, the statement above "hints" of the shop being "parts changers", and perhaps not so much "troubleshooters".
This shop (as well as the Ford dealerships) are in business to make money. Some shops will push the limits of honesty and some will replace parts that they do not need to because they do not have the knowledge or access to the proper diagnostic equipment. This applies to independent shops as well as Ford dealerships. I am not saying this shop is not good, they may have a great success rate. However, if they are replacing a large number of PCM's, then I would wonder about ONE of the statements above.
I sincerely doubt that this shop sees so many more 6.0L diesel trucks that they would have a better feel for the failure rate of PCM's than cheezit ..... maybe, but I doubt it. I hope you do not end up w/ a big bill (especially if it is w/ parts you may not have needed). That is a big reason this forum exists - to help folks troubleshoot on their own to help keep costs down. It is a HUGE advantage to have Techs that share information with us with ZERO desire for personal gain. When he says that the troubleshooting process indicates a PCM issue, but most likely it is a vref short, I personally would believe him
I certainly may be off base w/ this shop, but most techs will tell you that Bill Hewitt's videos and information contains quite a few errors on the 6.0L. He is very highly motivated businessman and clearly a salesman also. As a motivated businessman, I seriously doubt that he is paying for a shop full of certified techs with all of the Ford diagnostic equipment, but if he is I do not doubt you will get your problem fixed. I sincerely hope it is at a reasonable cost.
This shop (as well as the Ford dealerships) are in business to make money. Some shops will push the limits of honesty and some will replace parts that they do not need to because they do not have the knowledge or access to the proper diagnostic equipment. This applies to independent shops as well as Ford dealerships. I am not saying this shop is not good, they may have a great success rate. However, if they are replacing a large number of PCM's, then I would wonder about ONE of the statements above.
I sincerely doubt that this shop sees so many more 6.0L diesel trucks that they would have a better feel for the failure rate of PCM's than cheezit ..... maybe, but I doubt it. I hope you do not end up w/ a big bill (especially if it is w/ parts you may not have needed). That is a big reason this forum exists - to help folks troubleshoot on their own to help keep costs down. It is a HUGE advantage to have Techs that share information with us with ZERO desire for personal gain. When he says that the troubleshooting process indicates a PCM issue, but most likely it is a vref short, I personally would believe him
I certainly may be off base w/ this shop, but most techs will tell you that Bill Hewitt's videos and information contains quite a few errors on the 6.0L. He is very highly motivated businessman and clearly a salesman also. As a motivated businessman, I seriously doubt that he is paying for a shop full of certified techs with all of the Ford diagnostic equipment, but if he is I do not doubt you will get your problem fixed. I sincerely hope it is at a reasonable cost.
But he told me that if I need a new PCM, it will not cost me more than $400 for it and he will warranty it for 4 years. I don't know if that because it's me or if he always does the 4 year warranty, but that sounds pretty good after he told me the price for a new PCM from Ford.
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