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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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what is it?

could somebody please tell me what this box is on the drivers side inner fender? what about the vacuum hoses and switches. thanks
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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I think this might be California emission stuff but somebody else will need to say for sure.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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yep, cali emissions junk. i had this stuff on three of my trucks and ripped it out.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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You would think that they would realize that Cali is too far gone, and give up on their crazy emissions laws, hahaha! SMUG ALERT!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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would it affect anything by removing it. would i remove just the switches and hoses or remove the box as well?
how can i tell for sure if it has california emissions?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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how can i tell for sure if it has california emissions?
Contact Ford for some build info. There's a thread in here somewhere on how to do it. My truck has the California Emissions package on it, or did before the previous owner ripped it all off, and it shows it on my spec sheet that Ford sent.

Or, you could post the DSO(District Sales Office) code and someone can tell you what state the truck was ordered in.

I don't know for sure, but doesn't Canada also have emissions?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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you can pull the whole thing out. i have one sitting in a box on my front porch and the truck never did mind losing it. as for how to know for sure it's cali emissions, simple, bc it's there
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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ok, i went out and snapped some pics for you. this will actually answer your question of how you know if your truck is cali emissions.

1981 Cali emissions truck, conforms to US EPA and Cali regulations


1984 Non-Cali emissions truck, only conforms to US EPA regulations


 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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fordzilla80 -my dso code is 74 which i have figured out is seattle.i know the truck was made in minnisota. so it must have been sold in seattle(meaning no cali emissions?), in canada where i live there is no emissions testing. thanks

dohc_chump -here is a shot of my tag on the rad support. does this help any? thanks


 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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well isn't that a wrench in the wheel...
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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You guys are forgetting that in 1984 all 50 states started to have the EEC-IV TFI-IV computer and ignition system. Depending on engine, options etc...

The Solenoids are for the Thermactor Air Diverter, and Thermactor Air Bypass system. It controls the TAD and TAB Valves, which controls the air flow from the air pump.

If this system is functioning correctly, I would leave it alone. Removing it will put the computer system in limp home mode, and drivability and fuel mileage will suffer.

To check to see if the computer is working like it should you will need to do a computer diagnostic.

The only way to remove these components without compromising performance or fuel mileage is to do a Duraspark II conversion to the engine. This entails replacing the distributor, ignition module, and carb to non computer controlled versions.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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where would the computer be located?, and i am pretty sure my carb is not computer controlled. how would i know if it was? thanks
 
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The computer is under the dash. A Rectangular silver box with about 30 wires going into it.

The Carb is computer controlled from the factory. It will have a Feedback solenoid attached that controls fuel mixture via the computer and the O2 sensor in the exaust. Wires to the Feedback solenoid are Tan/Light Green stripe and Red.

If your carb has been replaced, you may not have a computer controlled one anymore. However this will throw your timing out the window, as the distributor is computer controlled as well. It will put the computer in limp home mode.

I've seen where people have taken smog components off their engine hiddly piddly, and have a worse running engine for it. If you remove something, make sure you remove all the computer controlled components. Then replace them with the non computer controlled versions, Carb, ignition module, distributor, etc... Otherwise a bad running engine could result.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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where abouts under the dash? i will check tommorow for this. i replaced the egr valve today and have no hesitation at all. no spark knock and seems to have lots of power.
where would the feedback solenoid be located on the carb ? i dont see any wires going to the carb. any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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IIRC the computer is mounted vertically, behind and to the left of the HVAC controls. At
least, this is what I recall seeing in junkyards....
 
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