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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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The truck is a 1999 F250 with a 5.4L Triton engine. Never has any heat. Both heater hoses @ firewall get hot. Undone heater hoses & water from a garden hose flows thru heater core well. Have vacuum to black hose behind heater controls. Controls seem to move ok. Checked related fuses under dash & under hood. Also swapped relays around. No wires seem to be off under dash. Any ideas would be helpful, thank you
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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Is the fan working?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 12:20 AM
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Yes, the fan works on all speeds.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:10 AM
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I don't know which direction you ran the garden hose through the heater core, but sometimes a reverse flush can get more crud out than one in the direction of normal flow?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:19 AM
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Are you letting the engine run long enough that the heater would work even if you have a bad thermostat, like 15 or 20 minutes?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Yes, I had mentioned that both heater core hoses are hot.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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I would suspect the blend door. It is controlled by an electric motor that is controlled by the warm/cool ****. I can't give you an exact location, but I have posted a general diagram below.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Yes, I was thinking that the problem with the heat was leading up to the blend door. I should have heat @ the heater core. If I had a laser shooting thermometer I could aim it @ the HVAC box. But I will first see if I have any power @ any time down to my actuator. Will try after I send the little man off to bed. Anyone know which wires down there are for what ?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Also, I was thinking that it is possible to have an air pocket trapped in the heater core area. I heard that if I whipped the hoses off then back on while running it may cure it. Of course its a messy process. Any tricks with this ?
 
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Also, I was thinking that it is possible to have an air pocket trapped in the heater core area. I heard that if I whipped the hoses off then back on while running it may cure it. Of course its a messy process. Any tricks with this ?
I don't believe this is your problem. If it were, it would have to be preventing coolant flow through the heater core to be causing a problem, and if there wasn't coolant flow through the heater core, they're wouldn't be coolant flow through the hoses and they wouldn't get hot.
 
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I don't know if these will help, but they might...
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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why did you wait 11 years to address this problem.you should have flushed the system years ago.this is called preventive maintanence.flush it with a good good cooling system flush.followed by a distilled water flush.then distilled water and the proper 50/50 anti-freeze solution.
 
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Good tip about the coolant concentration percentages & so I had just bought this F250 about a month ago. The electrical breakdown is useful as with the engine running I only have power @ the #7 pin & ground @ #8 pin as noted. No power at any other pins no matter on the position of the temp dial or the vent selector position switch. Also... No power ever is @ either @ the 2 plugs that go to the back of the temp selector switch. Yet I have checked all pertinent fuses & swapped relays. The truck itself is in pristine condition. Anyway, still no heat...
 
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I am thinking that I need power to these other pins on the plug as shown. I only have wiring on my truck to pins 3,4, 6,7 &8. No terminals on others in plug. Might need electrical schematic to backtrace through wiring.
 
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These are the diagrams. They aren't labeled but the one with the blend door actuator and temp control dial is 54-4. It references connection C (triangle with a C in it) in diagram 54-1, which is the other diagram.

It appears that pin 7 of the connector to the blend door actuator is powered by fuse 28 in the Central Junction Box. Pin 8 of the connector goes to ground. The fuse number may be different, fuses did change between model years. Mine is a 2004 and I don't think the same fuse panel went back as far as 1999. The fuse is labeled "EATC module/Front blower relay coil" in my owner's manual. But that may be different in yours as well.

Pins 3, 4 and 6 are wires back to the heater control, and it appears from the diagram that you won't see any power on those, just a change in resistance as you turn the heat control ****.
 
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