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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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turbo lag???

Has anyone had a problem with turbo lag or what feels like a dead spot? It has twice where i go to change lanes in traffic and there is no response. For a split second you think that engine has stalled !! Have had the flash done. got 4000k
 
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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I Haven't had any issues and over 6,000 miles. Your best bet is to take it in to your ford dealer and explain what your feeling. I don't know of anyone else haveing this issue.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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I'll bet you are nailing the pedal to the floor eh? Try only going 3/4 down and then flooring it.

If not prove it to your dealer cause it's messed up.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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My pedal feels similar. Pressing a little, or pressing a lot, doesn't make much difference. After a few seconds, maybe two or three, things "index" and the engine responds proportionately, albeit severely delayed. I only have 400 miles on mine, and have had the flash at the factory, but am hoping condition lessens with break in. Looking at the AFE or S&B cold air kits, and an exhaust, to reduce the annoying lag. Some people are happy with the pickup of their pickups, and I wonder if these people are just coming from a really sluggish previous ride, or if there is something "off" on some of our trucks? In my experience so far, once this truck has been floored a while, full throttle passing is better than previous generations (even chipped ones), but the initial lag is worse...Too bad the tuners just don't have anything yet. Has anyone tried the aftermarket air intakes yet? Noticeable improvement?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Here's a stab in the dark. Is this y'alls first diesel? It is mine and I had to get used to it a bit because I was used to INSTANT power. After seeing everything about diesels these new 6.7 seem to be the best yet.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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sorry but not my first diesel !!!!!!! just a wierd lag. it just doesnt do it all the time. Will wait fro my first oil change and ask the to check it out.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 12:04 AM
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sorry but not my first diesel !!!!!!! just a wierd lag. it just doesnt do it all the time. Will wait fro my first oil change and ask the to check it out.
I notice a lot of the newer diesels with newer emissions like DPF's are very sluggish on hard acceleration. Many of the medium duty truck I work on have this problem. I think it is a built-in emissions strategy to prevent an overfueling condition in which it emits too much of something. Delaying the fuel and easing it into desired fuel (how much foot you have in the pedal) helps keep the new emission standard low for more emission "credit" towards other emission items that may not be as efficient as the EPA would like them to be.

So it's trimming that sudden burst of fuel down to prevent and over fuel condition, or maybe even a possible over fuel condition under certain circumstances.

That is just my take on why they are like that. Not sure exactly why...never researched it.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by adamtheman16
I notice a lot of the newer diesels with newer emissions like DPF's are very sluggish on hard acceleration. Many of the medium duty truck I work on have this problem. I think it is a built-in emissions strategy to prevent an overfueling condition in which it emits too much of something. Delaying the fuel and easing it into desired fuel (how much foot you have in the pedal) helps keep the new emission standard low for more emission "credit" towards other emission items that may not be as efficient as the EPA would like them to be.

So it's trimming that sudden burst of fuel down to prevent and over fuel condition, or maybe even a possible over fuel condition under certain circumstances.

That is just my take on why they are like that. Not sure exactly why...never researched it.

Sounds like a logical observation to me.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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That sounds right!!!! No matter what I love this truck the power is so much better than my 6.0L
 
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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Well, I'm very disappointing in the turbo lag right off idle and am not that used to having to wait longer than usual in city traffic. I came from a DPF GM diesel that did not have anywhere close to the turbo lag this truck has. I hope Ford can fix what I feel is a safety issue for city stop/start driving IMO.

Rick
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:52 AM
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I agree RickSo! Acceleration on these trucks is like watching paint dry...then wham, suddenly you've overcompensated for the lag, and the truck is accelerating more quickly than you wanted. My six-oh had about 3/4 seconds of lag; this new truck is more than double that. Perhaps a tuner adding a few hundred more horsepower and different timing could make these trucks fun again? Or maybe our trucks all vary significantly in performance?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:43 AM
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Like I stated earlier, I don't think its turbo lag. I think it's fuel limiting. The variable turbos do not have that amount of lag, given the proper amount of fuel introduced. Especially this new-fangled twin compressor concept. Why would they step backwards? Of course they have gone backwards somewhere, but I don't think it was the turbo department. I think it is the emissions department.

The exhaust part of the turbo looks exactly like the 6.0 turbo and operates the same way. I think it is a ball bearing turbo instead to increase angular velocity of both the compressor wheels and handle the extra weight of the second wheel on the turbine shaft.

Of course, without boost there is no fuel, but it has to start somewhere and fuel is how it is started.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:21 AM
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Sounds to me like something isn't right. I've heard that there is basically no lag on these new engines. I was walking down the sidewalk, when a 6.7 pulled out of the post office and punched it. It didn't appear to have any lag. I was most impressed with the lack of decibels given how hard he was pushing it!
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:25 AM
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Sounds to me like something isn't right. I've heard that there is basically no lag on these new engines. I was walking down the sidewalk, when a 6.7 pulled out of the post office and punched it. It didn't appear to have any lag. I was most impressed with the lack of decibels given how hard he was pushing it!
There is lag on these new 6.7L's. Turbo or emissions it's still lags.. Others have complained. The guy who left the post office probably punched it after the lag. You can learn to control it... But if you have an emergency and need to punch it... It can be an issue....
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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There is a bit of turbo lag off of the start for sure compared to my 07 Cummins 5.9. I'm sure ATS and others will be working on a fix for this soon
 
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