460 engine swap
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460 engine swap
I would like any info on swapping a 460 into my 66 f 100. I have mocked up the engine and trans, my issues are oil pan clearance, and header to steering box clearance. I have considered changing the front suspension,II just havent found exactly what I want. I have to have big tube headers because the heads have large ports. I am no computer wiz so please excuse me for any mistakes now or in the future . Thanks
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as far as the 460.... what you need to find is a 73-79 f100/250 that has had a BB460 in it and get the engine perches/stands, the ones that bolt to the crossmember. they will allow you to mount your engine in just like it belongs there.
headers, i dont really know.
as far as the 460.... what you need to find is a 73-79 f100/250 that has had a BB460 in it and get the engine perches/stands, the ones that bolt to the crossmember. they will allow you to mount your engine in just like it belongs there.
headers, i dont really know.
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I used mounts & stands from 70s 2wd 460 truck. I used Moroso 20614 oil pan although 70s front sump or 80s rear sump oem pans would have worked. Of course you have to have the right oil pump pickup tube for your pan. Hedman 89140 are the headers I used, no modifications required but the drivers side is real close to my steering gear box (late 70s power).
As of right now I'm still using my radiator & shroud for the old FE that I took out.
What heads do you have?
As of right now I'm still using my radiator & shroud for the old FE that I took out.
What heads do you have?
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A 460 reverse sump pan, pickup tube and the stud used to mount it can be found in 1975/91 460 Econolines, but...
Econoline 460 engine mounting parts will not work on F100/350's, neither will passenger car 460 mounting parts.
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thats part of the self lubricating frame option.
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460 engine swap
Thanks, first of all for all the info, everyone. I have had this truck for 25 years. When I graduated high school it was my only ride. It has been in the family since the mid seventies. The first time I remember seeing it, it had a 428 Cobra Jet and a toploader 4speed, not to mention sidepipes. I know this may seem dated, but I am actually going to try to duplicate that image but with some modern subtle touches. I have a 460 BB with a modern solid roller cam and atunnel ram intake, and Ford Motorsport SCJ
aluminum heads. I have always had a FE in this truck but I wanted to try something different. Maybe someday I can actually post
some pictures, but for me that is a big step. Thanks again to everyone.
aluminum heads. I have always had a FE in this truck but I wanted to try something different. Maybe someday I can actually post
some pictures, but for me that is a big step. Thanks again to everyone.
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This maybe the case for solid roller cams but not the case if he was to convert to a hyd. roller cams.
I would also down size the cam a bit for better street performance. And depending on what springs are on your heads it would be wise to upgrade those with a new cam.
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This maybe the case for solid roller cams but not the case if he was to convert to a hyd. roller cams. I would also down size the cam a bit for better street performance. And depending on what springs are on your heads it would be wise to upgrade those with a new cam.
I would also down size the cam a bit for better street performance. And depending on what springs are on your heads it would be wise to upgrade those with a new cam.
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Solid or hydraulic roller in a 460, neither like idling. Check out 460ford.com for more information. There is little to no gain running a roller on the street that cannot be achieved with a solid flat tappet. Solid flat will not need periodic roller lifter inspection and offers much better camshaft profile for street driven vehicles. Actually a hydraulic roller on a 460 is worse than a solid. The hydraulic roller lifter is the tallest lifter and with the canted valve design of the 460 head, makes for some difficult valvetrain geometry.
Thats odd because I have a boosted 528 with a hyd rollder cam with TFS A460 heads and never once have I had a problem! And the only thing Ive ever done is freshen the bearings and rings! And its got well over 20,000 street miles and over 200 passes on it. I also ran the same engine with ported D3 heads with the same cam and lifters. Before stepping up to the A460s. So if your valve train geometry is off then there is other problems. Im also a member of 460ford.com and have built many 460s, 302s and 351s with many different cams and never had any issues with valve train geometry after a given engine had ran. So if you know something I dont then please give more info!
The 460 was one of the best engines ford ever made!
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Ford never offered a hydraulic roller in a 460 for a reason. The crate 521 from Ford comes with a solid roller. For every story about no problem with hydraulic rollers in a 460, there are 20 stories about rollers taking a dump and sending camshaft metal throughout the motor. I would hardly call 20,000 miles a testament to hydraulic rollers.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. My opinion is don't waste your time or money with a hydraulic roller cam in a 460 street truck. A good set of hyd rollers is $400-$1000. Go with a solid flat tappet cam and spend the $400-$1000 somewhere else.
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthr...draulic+roller
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. My opinion is don't waste your time or money with a hydraulic roller cam in a 460 street truck. A good set of hyd rollers is $400-$1000. Go with a solid flat tappet cam and spend the $400-$1000 somewhere else.
http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthr...draulic+roller
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got my motor perches from a 76 2wd f150 using a stock front sump pan and so far havent had any trouble. as far as the headers go i am using headers designed for a 79 f150 2wd with ps and all worked well when i set it in to check clearances. working on the engine now so its back out
