Considering 2005 6.0
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Considering 2005 6.0
I am thinking about trading in my 2006 F-150 for a 2005 Excursion with the 6.0. I am a little nervous about the 6.0. The Excursion looks to be in great shape and has about 94,000 miles. I usually travel about 10-12,000 miles per year. I tow about 3-6,000 lb a couple times a month. I'm hoping to get at least 5 years out of the Excursion. Does that sound reasonable with the 6.0?
My other option is a 2009-2010 Expedition EL.
I will try to get an OASIS report.
Thanks for any input.
My other option is a 2009-2010 Expedition EL.
I will try to get an OASIS report.
Thanks for any input.
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Towing 3 to 6,000 lbs. a couple times a month may not justify the extra upkeep and possible repair cost of a diesel. The diesel is not designed for short grocery store runs when not towing. With that weight range a gasser would easily handle it at a much cheaper cost. Just my op.
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I agree that you don't need a diesel, but it may be your best option right now.
The Expedition is a poor towing platform, especially the EL version.
The 5.4 sucks, with poor power and poor fuel economy. Although at 6k# it would be acceptable. But if you have any thoughts of a heavier rig in the future, avoid the 5.4. You already have one, so you know.
That leaves the V-10 or a diesel, or wait until the 6.2 becomes available in the F150 next year.
The Expedition is a poor towing platform, especially the EL version.
The 5.4 sucks, with poor power and poor fuel economy. Although at 6k# it would be acceptable. But if you have any thoughts of a heavier rig in the future, avoid the 5.4. You already have one, so you know.
That leaves the V-10 or a diesel, or wait until the 6.2 becomes available in the F150 next year.
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Thanks for the input. I agree, the diesel may be overkill for the loads i tow.
I really like my current truck, it does pretty much everything I need it to do. However, i have 3 step kids and one of my own on the way. Just not enough passenger room in the F150 for me.
My only complaint of my 150 is the gas mileage while towing. Thats what had me thinking about the diesel. Towing on the highway my truck gets about 8 mpg.
Ive heard the Expedition tows poorly due to the rear suspension. Maybe it would be fine with the loads i tow.
I really like my current truck, it does pretty much everything I need it to do. However, i have 3 step kids and one of my own on the way. Just not enough passenger room in the F150 for me.
My only complaint of my 150 is the gas mileage while towing. Thats what had me thinking about the diesel. Towing on the highway my truck gets about 8 mpg.
Ive heard the Expedition tows poorly due to the rear suspension. Maybe it would be fine with the loads i tow.
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Yes, the soft springs and independent suspension, and also the rear overhang. But I see plenty of them towing what looks like 6k# campers. Go with the best anti-sway equipment you can and you should be okay. But there is no way around the underpowered 5.4. The Expy will weigh a bit more than your F150, and it may have a lower numerical gear ratio which hurts you too. You can regear of course.
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I am thinking about trading in my 2006 F-150 for a 2005 Excursion with the 6.0. I am a little nervous about the 6.0. The Excursion looks to be in great shape and has about 94,000 miles. I usually travel about 10-12,000 miles per year. I tow about 3-6,000 lb a couple times a month. I'm hoping to get at least 5 years out of the Excursion. Does that sound reasonable with the 6.0?
My other option is a 2009-2010 Expedition EL.
I will try to get an OASIS report.
Thanks for any input.
My other option is a 2009-2010 Expedition EL.
I will try to get an OASIS report.
Thanks for any input.
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Thanks for all the input. The 6.0 definetly seems like a risk.
Used 2005 Ford Excursion Eddie Bauer For Sale | Melbourne FL
This is the one I have my eye on.
If only Ford still made the Excursion I would buy one with a 6.7 in a heartbeat.
Used 2005 Ford Excursion Eddie Bauer For Sale | Melbourne FL
This is the one I have my eye on.
If only Ford still made the Excursion I would buy one with a 6.7 in a heartbeat.
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Thanks for all the input. The 6.0 definetly seems like a risk.
Used 2005 Ford Excursion Eddie Bauer For Sale | Melbourne FL
This is the one I have my eye on.
If only Ford still made the Excursion I would buy one with a 6.7 in a heartbeat.
Used 2005 Ford Excursion Eddie Bauer For Sale | Melbourne FL
This is the one I have my eye on.
If only Ford still made the Excursion I would buy one with a 6.7 in a heartbeat.
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Thanks for all the input. The 6.0 definetly seems like a risk.
Used 2005 Ford Excursion Eddie Bauer For Sale | Melbourne FL
This is the one I have my eye on.
If only Ford still made the Excursion I would buy one with a 6.7 in a heartbeat.
Used 2005 Ford Excursion Eddie Bauer For Sale | Melbourne FL
This is the one I have my eye on.
If only Ford still made the Excursion I would buy one with a 6.7 in a heartbeat.
sorry jmo
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I am willing to bet that if you could buy a 2011 Excursion in a heartbeat and the window sticker would be around the mid to upper 60's, buying an 05 for 27'000 and puting 7500 in to it if you had to, shouldn't be a big deal. The window sticker on our 05 was just under 54'000.
sorry jmo
sorry jmo
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I dont mind spending 27,000 on the Ex and then putting 7,500 into it. That puts me under 35,000. Which is still way below the cost of a 2009-2010 low mileage Expedition EL or a 2011 Excursion (if they were available).
My bigger concern is the headache and hassle of dealing with an unplanned major problem to the vehicle. I'm new to diesel engines and not a good mechanic.
If I were to have a $7,500 problem would it still be driveable until I had time to fix it or would I be out of a vehicle for a while?
My bigger concern is the headache and hassle of dealing with an unplanned major problem to the vehicle. I'm new to diesel engines and not a good mechanic.
If I were to have a $7,500 problem would it still be driveable until I had time to fix it or would I be out of a vehicle for a while?
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Still wondering why you are not considering a V-10 in the Scurge.
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I think if I was going to get a V-10 Ex I should just get an Expedition EL.
I'm starting to think the diesel isnt worth it for the towing/driving I do. Really the reasons I am interested in a diesel excursion is improved fuel economy while towing, longevity and lower initial cost than a newer (09/10) Expedition.
The diesel is higher risk and could lead to expensive repairs and maintenance.
I should probably just get the Expedition. It will have a factory warranty, the 5.4 is proven (although not powerful), and it will haul my usual loads just fine. If i drive 10-12,000 miles per year the Expedition should holdup 6-10 years without any major issues.
I'm starting to think the diesel isnt worth it for the towing/driving I do. Really the reasons I am interested in a diesel excursion is improved fuel economy while towing, longevity and lower initial cost than a newer (09/10) Expedition.
The diesel is higher risk and could lead to expensive repairs and maintenance.
I should probably just get the Expedition. It will have a factory warranty, the 5.4 is proven (although not powerful), and it will haul my usual loads just fine. If i drive 10-12,000 miles per year the Expedition should holdup 6-10 years without any major issues.
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I have a 05 F-350 6.0 ( completely stock)and have had only a couple of minor issues with it. It has 86k and have only done any real towing with it in the last 5k miles. Use it for everyday driving and its been fine. If it fell apart tomorrow and cost me 10k to fix it I would do it as its still cheaper than buying another one and I love my truck. I too moved up from a F150.