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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Cool HELP PLEASE!! ENGINE FAILURE!!

My son's truck is a 2002 F-150 XL, regular cab, short bed with the 4.2L V6. It's lifted with 33" tires and Flowmasters. The truck is up to about 137,000 miles and the engine failed. We're still waiting to see what has happened. The truck is a 5-spd manual also, forgot to add that. We don't know what to do. I've heard of disaster stories with this model 4.2L. The truck will sputter, pop, then quit running. I'm going to pick him up here soon and ask what happened. I'll try and keep it all updated. So I'll need help from all of you, as much help as possible.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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It don't sound good but let us know what happen.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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It don't sound good but let us know what happen.

This really doesn't sound good. I just got back. He said the truck made a popping sound that sounded about like a .22 rifle, then it quit. We're going to work on it tonight. I had to use my 2010 F-150 to tow it back here. Who wants to pay a $250-$300 towing bill?? Not me!!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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I'm not sure what disaster stories you've heard, but the 4.2 is a great engine. Some will argue it is too small for a pickup, but that another argument. The original gasket issues were resolved by the 99 model.
If the truck quit running, I would hazard a guess and say something has failed, but what makes you say it is the engine itself that is gone. I would check for codes first and see what that give you. I'm sure it's nothing major, unless there was an underlying issue that was neglected causing you to suspect an engine failure.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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I'm not sure what disaster stories you've heard, but the 4.2 is a great engine. Some will argue it is too small for a pickup, but that another argument. The original gasket issues were resolved by the 99 model.
If the truck quit running, I would hazard a guess and say something has failed, but what makes you say it is the engine itself that is gone. I would check for codes first and see what that give you. I'm sure it's nothing major, unless there was an underlying issue that was neglected causing you to suspect an engine failure.
I have heard some bad stories about the 4.2L and I have a lot of respect for that motor because I've seen them with over 300K miles. But, we did find out what it was and we just got done fixing it. The serpentine belt broke. Here's the way he described what happened. He said the truck started to shake badly, then about 3 seconds later he heard a pop about like a .22 rifle, then the check engine light came on and the engine temperature skyrocketed to the red line, and then it quit and he pulled off the road. But it's fixed now and the truck seems fine. Hopefully this thing is Built Ford Tough and lasts him longer than the Dodge he had. lol The Dodge was his choice. He bought one with 247,000 miles with the 4.7 V8 and the truck was burning oil after about a month and then the cam phasers failed at 'bout 260K. No more Dodges, he learned the lesson!!!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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For a couple of years, I'm sure some had thought they had bought a real expensive paperweight. By 99 though it was done with and my 4.2 now has about 265k kilometers( or roughly 165k miles), so hopefully I still have a lot of life left in mine.
Anyway, glad it turned out to be minor. Hopefully no damage was done to his engine when it overheated. I'm guessing that is what caused it to die.

I don't worry unless it sounds like a shotgun going off in the cab of a truck.....
then you know it's bad.

Actually, I was in the cab of a truck once when someone else in the cab fired a 12 gauge. Very loud!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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Dont sell the 4.2 short...its not a powerhouse,but Ive had 2. one in a 97 LWB automatic,and you couldnt kill it no matter what. My present ride is an 07 with the same powertrain,and we love it. The 97 had 186,000 showing when I traded her in,and I have no doubt that somewhere shes doing what she did so well for me.
It is somewhat under powered to be in a full size truck,but Ill have this 07 for at least 15 more years.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Dont sell the 4.2 short...its not a powerhouse,but Ive had 2. one in a 97 LWB automatic,and you couldnt kill it no matter what. My present ride is an 07 with the same powertrain,and we love it. The 97 had 186,000 showing when I traded her in,and I have no doubt that somewhere shes doing what she did so well for me.
It is somewhat under powered to be in a full size truck,but Ill have this 07 for at least 15 more years.
It's my son's truck just so you know. Selling it is his choice because he's the one who bought it. We have the truck running fine now. It just sorta scared the crap out of me when I get the phone call: "Dad, my truck broke down near Halliburton in Jackson's Mill. You come and check it out?" HA!! I'm just happy we have it running again. If you didn't know, it was the serpentine belt.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ottawaguy
For a couple of years, I'm sure some had thought they had bought a real expensive paperweight. By 99 though it was done with and my 4.2 now has about 265k kilometers( or roughly 165k miles), so hopefully I still have a lot of life left in mine.
Anyway, glad it turned out to be minor. Hopefully no damage was done to his engine when it overheated. I'm guessing that is what caused it to die.

I don't worry unless it sounds like a shotgun going off in the cab of a truck.....
then you know it's bad.

Actually, I was in the cab of a truck once when someone else in the cab fired a 12 gauge. Very loud!

I know, I did kind of exagerate a lil' didn't I. No??? It just scared the crap out of me when I got the phone call. Read my reply to another post and you'll see what my son said. hehe You have a good day!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Hope it didn't do any internal damage.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Hopefully this thing is Built Ford Tough and lasts him longer than the Dodge he had. lol The Dodge was his choice. He bought one with 247,000 miles with the 4.7 V8 and the truck was burning oil after about a month and then the cam phasers failed at 'bout 260K. No more Dodges, he learned the lesson!!!
He bought a used truck with 247k miles on it, it crapped out, and somehow that is the trucks fault? Fact is, there are very few trucks that live that long regardless of who built them. Ford has definately built their share of junk. I ran Dodge diesles for years when Fords diesel choice was the 6.0L. Those Dodges were some of the best vehicles I have ever owned. I know this is a Ford truck site but blind brand loyalty is a pretty humorous read.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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What due you expect from a Ford ????

you got over 100k out of it, its not a Honda.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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I've rebuilt two 4.2L in F150. Both had rod bearing go out. One the guy caught it early and just a spun rod bearing and the other guy drove it until the motor locked up. But after rebuilding them both they have alittle over 100K right now. I wouldn't say it's the motor fault.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Greenie
He bought a used truck with 247k miles on it, it crapped out, and somehow that is the trucks fault? Fact is, there are very few trucks that live that long regardless of who built them. Ford has definately built their share of junk. I ran Dodge diesles for years when Fords diesel choice was the 6.0L. Those Dodges were some of the best vehicles I have ever owned. I know this is a Ford truck site but blind brand loyalty is a pretty humorous read.
You're gonna need to grow thicker skin there Greenie.
Sorry, if your feelings were hurt.
And if you don't think trucks don't last long past the 250k mark, you've spent way too much time driving "the other brands".

.....talk about a humorous read
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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What due you expect from a Ford ????

you got over 100k out of it, its not a Honda.
More comedy....
 
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