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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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And semi's have 22" wheels. The SD has an 8 lug hub and likely has the big wheels to clear big brakes.

On the F150, the 20" wheels REDUCE payload by a couple hundred lbs per my other post, so the 18's will out-truck the 20's on an F150. If you want to use the truck, get 18's.

No offense intended. I'm an old guy who thinks of a truck as a tool, not as a costume or as a limousine.

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Not sure where you are getting your info from but this Ford link 2010 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | FordVehicles.com indicates nothing of the sort. Mine is a SuperCrew 4x4 145"wb with the Max Tow package so by this chart my payload rating is 1,910lbs. No where does it mention anything about a reduction if it is equipped with the 20" wheels.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rlh68050
Not sure where you are getting your info from but this Ford link 2010 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | FordVehicles.com indicates nothing of the sort. Mine is a SuperCrew 4x4 145"wb with the Max Tow package so by this chart my payload rating is 1,910lbs. No where does it mention anything about a reduction if it is equipped with the 20" wheels.
What is the payload on your door sticker? There is a huge payload thread with a lot of people who are very disappointed with their door stickers compared to the charts that list "max" payload. 20" wheels were one of the items that reduced payload from everything I recall on that thread. Fine print somewhere indicates that various options will reduce payload--they sure don't want you to know this. There are a lot of Crew Cab F150's with a 900-1000 lb payload, compared to a Transit Connect at 1600 lbs. Here, read to your heart's delight: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-question.html George
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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There is a diff between the 09 and 10 as the '10s got the bump in gvwr and payload with the max tow pkg. (despite no actual mechanical changes) Ford is very grey in this area as they now only list maximum payloads. There were 09 platinums with low payload stickers of @750lbs. If you really want to get confused try to figure out which combos get the higher front GAWR. I've looked at a dozen diff configs on lots and if there is a rhyme or reason, Ford ain't saying.

The only real way to know is to look at two identical trucks same year and one 18 & one 20 and then look at their payload stickers.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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What is the payload on your door sticker? There is a huge payload thread with a lot of people who are very disappointed with their door stickers compared to the charts that list "max" payload. 20" wheels were one of the items that reduced payload from everything I recall on that thread. Fine print somewhere indicates that various options will reduce payload--they sure don't want you to know this. There are a lot of Crew Cab F150's with a 900-1000 lb payload, compared to a Transit Connect at 1600 lbs. Here, read to your heart's delight: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-question.html George
Here is a pic.



I see that the GVWR is at 7,675lbs, and the max payload is 1,648. That seems like a reasonable amount for a 1/2 ton truck. I don't think my Excursion is much over 1,900lbs.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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Yup thats good. What trim and options? Roof? 6.5 ft box?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rlh68050
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I see that the GVWR is at 7,675lbs, and the max payload is 1,648. That seems like a reasonable amount for a 1/2 ton truck. I don't think my Excursion is much over 1,900lbs.
That was quick This is a far better payload number than some of the 900 lb payloads in the thread I referenced.

I have not kept up on the wheel types (cast/forged, etc) or tire sizes/types on these trucks--it certainly would be possible to use a heavy duty 20" wheel/tire combo.

I agree that your payload is pretty good for a half ton truck, but after putting four 250 lb guys in the cab and hooking up a 6500 lb trailer with a 650 lb tongue weight, you're done with no cargo. It is definitely lower than the 1910 lbs in the chart but a helluva lot better than 900 lbs.

Thanks for the info,
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 04:47 PM
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Its right in line with the GM max tow pkg too.

Hey with a 09 you were doa with the 3 guys in the cab, never mind the tounge lbs.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Yup thats good. What trim and options? Roof? 6.5 ft box?
Lariat. No sunroof and 5.5' box. It does have the Max Tow Package w/ the integrated brake controller.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by YoGeorge
That was quick This is a far better payload number than some of the 900 lb payloads in the thread I referenced.

I have not kept up on the wheel types (cast/forged, etc) or tire sizes/types on these trucks--it certainly would be possible to use a heavy duty 20" wheel/tire combo.

I agree that your payload is pretty good for a half ton truck, but after putting four 250 lb guys in the cab and hooking up a 6500 lb trailer with a 650 lb tongue weight, you're done with no cargo. It is definitely lower than the 1910 lbs in the chart but a helluva lot better than 900 lbs.

Thanks for the info,
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This is why I kept my Excursion. I travel with my wife, two big dogs, and the back loaded with camping supplies and firewood. My Travel Trailer weighs in at 9,500lbs w/ a tougue weight of ~950 lbs. Tows great. I would never think about hooking it up to the F150.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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Think you can get it level with your w/d bars? (TT on F150)
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Think you can get it level with your w/d bars? (TT on F150)
It's not so much about getting it level rather than having the proper tow vehicle. I'm afraid that no matter what they rate the 1/2 ton F150's towing capacity at I would not trust it to tow that heavy of a load.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 01:25 AM
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Fair enough.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Wow. Can anyone explain to me how having a bigger tire (20") reduces payload vs a smaller tire (18")?

Seems to me it should be the other way around?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Wow. Can anyone explain to me how having a bigger tire (20") reduces payload vs a smaller tire (18")?

Seems to me it should be the other way around?
Actually we are referring to the wheel size a.k.a rim size.

The 20" payload reduction I would think is because a few possible reasons:

A. The wheel itself is only rated to carry the weight of the truck with little additional headroom for extra payload.

B. The 20" wheel is likely to made out of the same metal as the 18" thus it would be a heavier wheel.

C. The tires that fit a 20" wheel that are of OEM factory spec don't have the weight rating for the additional load.

These aren't confirmed facts but this is what my train of logic leads me.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Just wanted to say;
20" wheels are VERY heavy to change if you are alone (like off road conditions). You will also require a significant jack with the raise height to accomodate. Many are prepared for this, some are not.
Please prepare yourself for worst case scenario should you elect to go this route.

Also, Those who off-road may also wish to consider moving their spare from underneath the box to inside the box. If you get stuck in deep snow or mud with a flat you will quickly discover why.
 
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