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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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Q: What makes Greywolf tick behind the scenes?
A: Being creative

When I'm offline, and trying to save money - I work on this little turkey. It's a Carl Goldberg Anniversary Edition Piper Cub (67 1/2" wingspan, with a Thunder Tiger 61 engine, and a four channel radio) ~ I was told the engine I have was Italian made, vice Chinese

*The kit is no longer available except as an ARF (Almost Ready to Fly). C.G. sold out to "Great Planes"
When I'm done, I may have the plans copied by a blueprinter

I bought all of the stuff for it eight years ago, and went ahead with it recently BECAUSE I FINALLY FOUND THE DAMNED BATTERY CHARGER FOR THE RADIO...

The wings will be wider than I AM TALL! 67 inches = six feet + 5 1/2 inches, I bet it floats like a crop-duster

"BALSA FLIES BETTER!"
 
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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I'm with ya Dutch! I've been building R/C cars, boats and planes for longer than I can remember.......I've got the wing off my Super Cub now while I do a new paint job, but I'll post a pic of it when I finish the new paint job.

R/Cing is a great hobby!
 
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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It's the next best thing to flying the real deal - without the field rental.

I think I want to build a Taylorcraft next, my Poppa had one, and I still remember the side number

N44464

We flew it out of Seattle once - Island hopping, to go salmon fishing. He told me he handed it to me once and I tried to loop it....
I guess I was about 8 years old at the time...

He always said I was his boy - and he was the one who pissed off Renton tower for "BUZZING" it too many times...
(He used to work for Boeing)

He cracked a spar at that field
That airplane never flew again...

- I come from a destinguished family of sons of bitches

MY POPPA was George Arthur Jacobs, and he was DAMN RIGHT!

I...

he worked as a contractor. His last job was on the main engines of the Space Shuttle. I guess he knew about all of that.
When the first one went up, we sat up all night in his house in San Diego watching all of the holds, until it finally lifted off and was successful. Once it went into orbit he slapped his hands together and yelled "WE'RE COVERED!" and he took me to the local bar for a beer...

Time went by, and I went into the navy. When the one shuttle blew up on it's way up I was stunned. I had no idea what to think...

But from that day on my Poppa drank himself to death and finally died.

I think that was what killed him.

I haven't shared that really - what do you say?
The hopes and dreams of engineers ruined by chance...
And the guilt that remains.

I'm pretty sure that's what shut my Poppa down and finally killed him.

He was a brilliant man, knew more about aviation than any man alive.

But his heart went out of him once that happened.

Because he thought he had failed...



I still love POPPA, and I still think he was right!





Aviation is like that.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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Looks good so far, Dutch!

Just one thing, though: 67.5" = 5' 7.5"
72" = 6'

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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Oops -DUH! 60" = 5', obvious...

It's still gonna be a big sucker. The TT 61 turned out to be an all-nighter just carving the nose to fit around the engine while still getting the prop hub centered where it needed to be. Note the way I had to make the cowl opening wander around the carb and muffler - I'm going to reinforce it with a wire buried in a bead of epoxy around the inside. - Couldn't have done it as easily without a manual nibbler that came from radio shack, and the cowl had to be split behind the cylinder to fit that monster 2-stroke up in there.

Thanks to the gargantuan muffler on it I'm planning to mount the tank a bit off center, and the battery pack too.The servo/radio deck is the latest can of worms, and as opposed to a 10 ounce tank I'm using a #16.

I figured the CG of the tank (+/- 1/4") and located it under the wing CG point so that fuel use won't affect the balance. Unfortunately this means the little man in the cabin will be missing - but it will make the fuel level easy to check on.

I'm done with it for a day or two because that sharp plastic prop made hash out of my fingertips...
* It's an 11 X 7 "Scimitar" from MA
(I think it deserves a wooden one anyhow)




PS: Tomorrow I'm going to go look for the local R/C flying club - their field is about 8 miles from here and they fly on saturday and sunday mornings.
In the meantime - the "TOWER VIEW" in Flight Simulator 2004 has been real helpful. Yo DON: If you have an FS version with a Cub, try setting the wind speed right down the runway at about 45-55 IAS and see what happens (you can "Fly Backwards" for one thing). GOOD practice for those "Oops!" flight situations
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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i am glad to see that there are people keeping this hobby alive. kids nowa days dont know anything that doesnt have a playststion controller attached to it.when i was was a kid we used to bolt .049's on toy trucks, prop and all to see how fast they would go. me, i could never fly. i was a boat and car kinda guy. and the kits were a map sized set of plans and a bunch of wood, no precuts. i still have all my engines from when i was a kid including a fleetwind '60' from when my dad was a kid in the 50's.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Since you mention it - the hardest birds to fly are control line models, because if you don't keep your wrist absolutely flat and straight they will overcontrol so fast it will all be over with in seconds. I used to wear a wrist brace until I got it down... I can't even count all of the PT-19's I've scattered all over the pavement.

In 1990 I had a young stepson who loved to go U-control flying with me at Miramar. I think we started a trend - the chalk circle we laid out in one of the parking lots by the commissary almost never had to be retouched.

Sadly (on the R/C and scale side of the house) most of those wooden model kits are now getting very hard to find. Carl Goldberg was bought up by Great planes and most of his kits and plans are no longer available. I have a stack of plans that go back all the way to the early sixties, including a number of Guillows birds (P-38, B-29, F-4U).

Tower Hobbies is a good resource, and there are some others out there. Searching around online is a good way to find stuff. When I dropped in the local R/C shop I was asked where I found (FOUND!!!) this Cub kit and I had to tell them it was one I bought ten years ago and never got around to building. The only Goldberg Cubs around these days are "ARF" kits ("Almost Ready to Fly") and that makes them more expensive, and leaves a lot of the individual choice out of what goes into them.

Me personally - I'm at the point of jumping off into purely scratch built planes, because I want to try some ideas of my own that might or might not come off too swift.

But: "That's where the fun is..."


Link for hard to find stuff:
TOWER HOBBIES R/C
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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my dad tried to teach me to fly control line, crashed a few. 2 weeks to build, 10 min to ruin. thats why i stayed with boats. my 2 favorites were a cat with a .25 outboard, and an airboat with a .60.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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See what I mean? "Free Flight" is the real easy way, but it means chasing your model who knows how far... I did that with a few just goofin' - all I wanted back each flight was the engine. The Big Daddy is R/C, if you build a halfway slow one or a glider to start out with it makes you wonder why you ever messed with U-control.

Trouble is, the price is also "BIG DADDY"

* The first free-flight I built was a modified glider with an 049. It got a quarter inch shorter each time we crashed it - but it was fun
 
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an .049 with the built in tank will fly over the roof of my parents house by itself
 
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Latest update, as usual "Not Following Instructions"

I built a combined 1-piece fuel and control deck, with radio/servos/fuel tank/battery pack all mounted in a removeable assembly.
I hope you get a kick out of the pic's...

* The local R/C Club has field maintenance and club dues amounting to $250.oo a year, so I skipped it If I wanted to spend that much I'd dump it into another airplane.
 
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Great looking job, Dutch!!!!!!

I wish I had the patience (and time) to build something like that.

Many years ago, the kid up the street gave me a box that said, "Winged Thing" on it.
In that box was a kite with an engine! Looked like what became 'ultra-light' aircraft.
Most of the pieces were broken, but, the engine and propeller were good.
BIG engine, for those days. Not the .049 engine.
Big wooden prop.

I still have it, somewhere, stored in Dad's basement.

I think there's a couple of old .049 engines in the same cubby-hole.

I was going to build a scaled down airboat and use that big engine.
We had a huge pond behind the house. (I didn't have a clue on how to steer it, so, that idea went into a drawer, somewhere in the back of my brain.)
 
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"BALSA FLIES BETTER!"
Yes, it does!!! That's why we use it for our turbine blades!!!
 
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Looks good. Only one I ever started on was a large scale model of PT-109 that had the option to convert to Radio control if you didnt want how it was orignally ment to be of setting the rudder turning the switch on and let it go in circles.

I finished the model but never got to the point of putting the guts in it such as the variable speed control system the radio control system and the drive train.

Another one I was always wanting to do was build a 1:144th scale big gun warship of the BB-35. Never got around to doing it and the hobby now adays seem pretty dead. Not to mention making all 5 dual barrel turrets operational in such a small warship would be pretty complicated and pricy. But I would still like to build one even if the cannons werent operational still.

The size of the warship in 1:144th scale would be as follows.

Length - 47.75"
Width - 7.94"

With a full load out of weapons it could weigh as much as 50 lbs with the CO2 tank and the BB magazines.
 
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Great looking job, Dutch!!!!!!

I wish I had the patience (and time) to build something like that.

Many years ago, the kid up the street gave me a box that said, "Winged Thing" on it.
In that box was a kite with an engine! Looked like what became 'ultra-light' aircraft.
Most of the pieces were broken, but, the engine and propeller were good.
BIG engine, for those days. Not the .049 engine.
Big wooden prop.

I still have it, somewhere, stored in Dad's basement.

I think there's a couple of old .049 engines in the same cubby-hole.

I was going to build a scaled down airboat and use that big engine.
We had a huge pond behind the house. (I didn't have a clue on how to steer it, so, that idea went into a drawer, somewhere in the back of my brain.)
At a guess - I'd say it was probably an .09 or a Fox .35 (depending on how big you mean by BIG)

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Yes, it does!!! That's why we use it for our turbine blades!!!
I'll be doggoned, I always thought they were glass fiber composite...

Originally Posted by Rusty_S
Looks good. Only one I ever started on was a large scale model of PT-109 that had the option to convert to Radio control if you didnt want how it was orignally ment to be of setting the rudder turning the switch on and let it go in circles.

I finished the model but never got to the point of putting the guts in it such as the variable speed control system the radio control system and the drive train.

Another one I was always wanting to do was build a 1:144th scale big gun warship of the BB-35. Never got around to doing it and the hobby now adays seem pretty dead. Not to mention making all 5 dual barrel turrets operational in such a small warship would be pretty complicated and pricy. But I would still like to build one even if the cannons werent operational still.

The size of the warship in 1:144th scale would be as follows.

Length - 47.75"
Width - 7.94"

With a full load out of weapons it could weigh as much as 50 lbs with the CO2 tank and the BB magazines.
Something I always grinned about at the back of my mind was the ships that were built for old war movies. They were actually manned by a single operator with an entire superstructure that lifted off to cover the drivers seat and controls Howzat for a fun toy to motor around?

I've got the tail covered, and am at the point where all of the stuff in the 'BODY' has to be plumbed & figured before splatting the gapers with wood putty and covering the fuselage. It's going to be tedious. I already had to fill in what I thought was going to be the radio on/off switch hole, it turned out the hull was too thick at that point. Oops dang.

Probably be a while before any new pics of it, there's no point posting any while they all look much the same. Come to think of it, I'll probably run out of covering material and have to shelve it until the first of the month
 
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