Maybe they are saying their product is so good it doesn't need a long warranty

 

that has always been my suspicion... a longer standard warranty always makes me kinda wonder WHY a company felt they needed to do so.

 

That's exactly why Hyundai is offering a 10 year warranty and why Dodge a year or so ago was offering a lifetime warranty- trying to drum up business

 

These warranties do come with some caveats. Hyundai for instance only offers the 10 year 100K warranty to the original owner. Once the car is sold, it reverts back to a 60K power train warranty.

Chrysler was simply up against the ropes and needed something to help with sales. With GM, you have to drive 20K miles a year to make it pay off. But, how many engines and transmissions actually fail within the first 100K miles? It's all smoke and mirrors.

I would love to see Ford extend their warranty offerings to say 72/72 or 72/100. But, it'll never happen as long as their sales continue to gain momentum.

 

Yes, that's the point- Ford has no need to do anything to increase sales but to be honest I hope that the ecoboost comes with a longer warranty. I think that a lot of reluctant folks would be more apt to buy one

 

HP is not what gets work done. Torque is what gets work done. Horsepower is a measurement of work (torque) done over time. The torque curve of the 3.5L is going to be much more desirable for towing than that of either the 6.2L (although it will come close) or the 5.0L.

Dyno chart of the 6.2L in the Raptor

Dyno chart of the 5.0L in the Mustang

Still looking for a real world dyno chart for the EB.

The compression ratio in the SHO's version of the EB is 10.0:1 when most of Ford's other V6's are at 10.3:1 (the n/a 3.5L is anywhere from 10.3:1 to 10.8:1), and Ford's 4cyls are at 10.0:1. In the Mustang, the 3.7L V6's compression ratio is 10.5:1 and the 5.0L V8 is at 11.0:1. The 6.2L in the SD has a compression ratio of 9.8:1. Also for comparison sake, the old 6.8L V10, the latest version of the 5.4L and the 4.6L's compression ratios are 9.8:1. The 4cyl EB coming out in the new Explorer has a compression ratio of 9.3:1. The 3.5L EB's compression ratio is very middle-of-the-road, and is lower than almost any other V6 that Ford offers, yet offers much more power. So your "high compression" theory goes out the window.

 

DING DING DING, We have a winner and it's not the Postman....

 

Is that... sarcasm? Funny when read it sound as such....

 

I found this nice article today with pics and a towing capacity chart comparing the new four engines to the competitiors ... I for one when I replace my 98 F150 Lariet with 4.6L was thinking going to one of the competitors with better engine/ towing choices but these new engines give me a reason to stay Ford ...

Ford F-150 engines for 2011 announced, includes EcoBoost V6 — Autoblog

 

I went to the Oklahoma State Fair today and went into the new car pavillion hoping to see a new 2011 F-150. None where there although I did check out the newly redesigned 2011 Ford Explorer and the 2011 Jeep Gran Cherokee.

 

Ford has always introduced their new trucks at the Texas State Fair, so if you want to see one you will have to drive down here.

 

Looking at the pics of the engines, it looks like all the engines and not just the 5.0L has the cooling lines going onto the oil filer block.

A previous article on the 5.0L mentioned that the OCI were increased due to a larger sump and the cooling lines.

 

For all the naysayers of small displacement turbo charged engines not performing in heavy duty applications, let us not remember the Cummins 4bt used in 25' box trucks, and the Isuzu 4 cylinder diesel in the forward cab trucks. These vehicle work daily in the 25k+ lbs. arena. Hell, most tow trucks around here (So Cal) have the Isuzu's now, as they perform as well, are as reliable yet return vastly better mpg than the full size GM and Ford offerings. and, before anyone says "well, those are purpose built diesel engines," Ford also 'purpose' built the EB motor for this type of use. The writing was on the wall years ago, from the epa anyway.

Besides, I am sure that there are some serious electronic nanny's inthe computer system that will stop the part well before anything 'could' get hurt in the motor.

Just my $0.02

 

I was really tossed between buying a 2010 this spring or holding on to my '07 and get a new 2011 with the 6.2l or 5.0l if offered in the right configuration for my needs. But I need a crew cab 6.5ft box with max trailer tow, and after finding out I can't get that with either new engine I'm really glad I did get a 2010 with the 5.4l!!!

 

I read an article saying that all new engines in the F150 will have 10,000 mile OCIs. Should be interesting... I wonder how many quarts they will require now?